Grizz (00:31)
Oh yeah. Oh, that was good. The tail end of that one of yours. Now that was, that was a nice tail right there. That was, that was beautiful. Oh shit. Turn on my camera. got too excited. I got too excited. Let's put it back. There we go. So I'm talking about.
Ice Bear (00:36)
⁓ yeah!
too much head on that bad boy. would not get the fable achievement.
Grizz (01:06)
that good?
Ice Bear (01:11)
I am excite. I have the excite. You want to introduce yours first or do you want me to lead things off?
Grizz (01:14)
There you go.
I think you're going to have to leave this on off right now.
Ice Bear (01:25)
Let me tell you,
I was hankering for this beer, and it appropriately told me I should whet my whistle, that I should throw caution to the wind and take a ride on the hop-side, savor the flavor of fresh citrus and forest pine along the way, and taste the freedom of the open road. This is Hop-Side IPA.
Grizz (01:28)
and
It's just so
Ice Bear (01:54)
You'll notice
the motorcyclist is a anthropomorphic hop.
Grizz (02:00)
Hahaha!
Ice Bear (02:02)
With another hop in a sidecar. ⁓
Grizz (02:05)
Now that is for that. No, is hoptastic right here. Me this boy right here. Mine's not as good as yours. This is from Noly brew house. No lie. Brew house. N O L I brew house. I'm going to assume it's No-Li from Spokane, Washington. It's a brooding can by No-Li. This is see No-Li No lie. Right? No lie.
Ice Bear (02:22)
Mm-hmm.
Uh-huh.
Grizz (02:35)
This is No-Li. It's a Juicy Haze IPA, 9 % Imperial Squatch. This is a Sasquatch that's Imperial. See that crown on him? You see that crown on that boy? This is an Imperial.
Ice Bear (02:43)
I love this.
I sure do. Look at that
naughty little lad.
Grizz (02:56)
No, I was not expecting that color.
Ice Bear (03:01)
⁓ I'm intrigued now.
What? Yeah, what's going on there?
Grizz (03:11)
Yeah, I am kind of shocked to be honest. I don't know if this is really good or like I should be worried right now.
Ice Bear (03:20)
I'm, yeah, I'm, I'm,
I'm very curious.
Grizz (03:24)
I kinda think this
is a Sasquatch piss.
Ice Bear (03:30)
Now my question to you, sorry, before you get into your thing, because I'm going to forget otherwise. In your time in the pack Northwest, these past couple tracks, have you encountered the Husky versus Cougar feud yet?
Grizz (03:30)
This looks...
⁓ no, have not, I've seen a fuck ton of Huskies over here.
Ice Bear (03:53)
Okay. So University of Washington, their mascot's the Huskies. And that is in your area, Seattle, like you're going to have far more Husky fans, but your area is also known for most cities and towns have a Cougar bar or two, which is Washington state. So that's why your beer reminded me of that. Cause that's how East and Spokane.
Grizz (04:02)
Okay.
Interesting. Yes.
Ice Bear (04:18)
So if you ever see like gray
and red colors, Cougar Bar. No, Cougar Bar, God, no. Purple Rain's Huskyland.
Grizz (04:21)
Husky, Cougar, ⁓ okay, that's good, okay.
That's good to know, see, so granted, I've been staying in the Cap Hill area, so it's just gay. It's just gay everywhere. I've seen mannequins in lace with wieners around here. yeah, so it's more gay than sports bars. But, I went to this one bar food thing called The Bait Shop.
Ice Bear (04:33)
you
As one does.
Grizz (04:51)
And it was a gay fishery themed. Had a really good burger. Now apparently the fish and chips were the best thing there. I didn't see it. saw, I saw a friend got the fish, fried fish salad thing. It had goldfish in it. So I don't know if that, I don't know how, how much I believe that they have the best fish. Yes.
Ice Bear (04:54)
Fantastic.
Mm-hmm.
Goldfish crackers? Or like goldfish
from a fair?
Grizz (05:14)
Goldfish crackers sprinkled over their fish and chips on the salad. He is like, what the fuck is this? So he did it. He wasn't too kind of it. was like, I mean, but I had a burger from there and it was fucking solid. So I Bait Shop burgers in Seattle, in cap Hill, Seattle solid anyways. ⁓ so yeah, so I haven't really got more sports bar, like kind of, you know, things. ⁓
Ice Bear (05:43)
We'll find you some.
Grizz (05:45)
We should cause you know, ⁓ there's one that I saw play some Mariner games when I was walking past it. So that's pretty cool. Luckily too. ⁓ when we talk about baseball and like, yeah, no Texans. They're like, when they find out I'm Texas, like you an Astros fan. They're like, no, I hate the Astros Texans. And they're like, all right, fine. You're acceptable. So apparently Seattle hates the fucking use the fucking Astros.
Ice Bear (05:54)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Grizz (06:13)
which you know they deserve to be hated so I'm fine with that. Yeah so so so we've we've we found common ground.
Ice Bear (06:16)
make sense. Yeah.
Good. Neutral hatred of the Strohs and their wild signals theft.
We're never going to forget Houston. know what you did.
Grizz (06:35)
Yeah, New England Patriots.
Ice Bear (06:37)
Yeah, also you patriots. Go get your massage, you creepy old man.
Just whole whole episode in in southern like twin banjos voice.
Grizz (06:56)
You
Mama, what are you Joe Dirt. Joe Dirt.
Ice Bear (07:08)
Not ma-
not mama, what are you making? Make it stop.
Grizz (07:13)
You ever do dirt dude
Ice Bear (07:17)
Joe Dirt was wild.
Great mullet. Also, the bit with the meteorite, it was just like the frozen airplane poop.
still still trinkles around in the back of the old noggin
Grizz (07:35)
ketchup and the fries on top. ⁓
Ice Bear (07:37)
Ugh, I forgot
about that. Yeah, that was awful.
Grizz (07:42)
My favorite though is the one Bayou Louisiana guy that's ⁓ like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Bobby. And the water boy, when he's also in Joe Dirt and he goes back to his home, he's like, this is my home. And he's like, why you make it? And he's like, you like to homos naked? He's like, no, home, why you make it? ⁓ so good.
Ice Bear (08:00)
Ha ha ha ha
Ha
This is this is one too many Adam Sandler references on this podcast for my liking. We've given him enough free promotion.
Grizz (08:18)
To be fair,
Lue Anno's handler, as shitty as his movies are now, he's done a lot of good in the world, even though I never gave him credit until I was nostalgia baiting. It's good.
Ice Bear (08:35)
Ye olde nostalgia bait.
Grizz (08:38)
was the South Park the whole member berries you remember you remember you remember when did you remember that's fair because that's all fucking remakes and shit for the longest time for like a lot of shit Star Wars fucking yeah a lot of it not just now all the Disney stuff all the all everything it's just like member
Ice Bear (08:41)
member?
When is the last time you saw a movie that was not based off of an existing property and or a straight remake?
Grizz (09:13)
that's good.
Ice Bear (09:14)
It's tough.
Grizz (09:17)
It's so, so here's one. I don't know if it's based on a prior property. I just watched this with the tiger last night. Cause she's been telling me to watch it. Have you watched the movie barbarian?
Ice Bear (09:27)
Yeah, I love the barbarian. That's a good example.
Grizz (09:29)
with
the Airbnb with Jake Gyllenhaal and everything.
Ice Bear (09:34)
Jake Gyllenhaal? What?
Grizz (09:35)
Maybe
it's not barbarian. I'm pretty sure it's called the barbarian. Jake Gyllenhaal. Not Jake Gyllenhaal. I don't know why I keep calling Jake Gyllenhaal. I did it all yesterday too. But Justin Long. Brian Sinclair from Fucking Zach and Me Make a Pornhub. Justin Long. Yeah. I don't know why I saying Jake Gyllenhaal. I did it.
Ice Bear (09:39)
It's an but it's just as long.
It's a great, that's a
great movie. Absolutely love that movie.
Grizz (09:58)
most random fucking assortment of things ever did not expect fucking any of it at all. Like it just took, okay, so when I first see it, I'm like, all right, fucking it clown bad guy, not the bad guy. All right. And then, and then it's like, you're not the main character. This will be here. We're doing a whole nother story. You're like, okay. All right. And then you get this fucking hanging.
Ice Bear (10:19)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (10:24)
booby lady just hanging swinging around and I'm like, where the fuck did you come from? And then it's a random throwbacks that still work for some reason, even though it feels like it's just thrown in there like the random like, shift back that it kind of still works is what makes it even weirder. And then the random homeless guy has a callback to like, and it's like, huh.
Ice Bear (10:27)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
⁓
That was that's a great example because that is a really good original concept the The way they split it up. It does feel like almost a couple different movies mashed together ⁓ Absolutely, all right people that don't want barbarian spoilers stop listening now because I'm gonna ruin the whole movie ⁓ so after the whole basement Search and the tunnel reveal
Grizz (10:58)
But it works.
Ice Bear (11:11)
and all that stuff happens and they go deeper and deeper into it and the like you said the weird booby lady in the pit and all that shit that is because it almost goes from like a weird kidnapping kind of rapey sexual assault what's going to happen that kind of vibe to this is this like a monster thing to is it just really sad and it's this poor
booby monster lady just being abused by some fucking weird old white guy in a station wagon because it's just horrible but very entertaining
Grizz (11:49)
Yeah.
It's, it is all odd. it's, what makes it more odd is that it works.
Ice Bear (12:03)
I went into it blind because I was told to and I'm really glad I did because I think if someone tried to explain it to me and then I watched it, I would have enjoyed it much less.
Grizz (12:12)
Yeah, cause so the tie, all the tiger coming was like, you need to watch this movie. Uh, she did tell me bits and parts of it when she first watched it and she was like how weird it was, but it kind of just went a movie that just stuck with her like for whatever reason, but she just always just said Airbnb movie.
Ice Bear (12:21)
Mm-hmm.
Do you remember the old Mac commercials? Do you remember? ⁓
Grizz (12:32)
that 5th of September.
Do you remember that? Is it a cockatiel,
Ice Bear (12:45)
Yes, absolutely.
Grizz (12:46)
And she like, it's hitting hitting the thing. Dude,
top tier animal right there.
Sorry. It's a great song.
Ice Bear (12:54)
100%. So it
really is. But no, so I'm thinking of Justin Long, and like that series of Mac commercials that was out was he was like the cool Mac. And they have that other comedian BPC. And he was very straight lace. And he was like, that was, I think that line of commercials is what carved out the path for Apple being kind of the
Grizz (13:04)
shit. Yeah. Yeah. Holy shit.
Yeah, the being yeah, because it yeah, that's so true. that's so good. Yeah, that's that's those are damn good commercials. Damn good commercial.
Ice Bear (13:20)
the trend cult-y thing that it is today.
They're outstanding because every one of them you're just like,
damn, do I want to like even if you even if you knew better, even if you were someone that was into computers and you don't really need a Mac, they made you want one. You're like, shit, do I want an iPod like to?
Grizz (13:45)
Dude, the funniest thing was like during that time, I guess like 2013, if not, yeah. No. Yeah. 20, 20, 12, 20, 13. Like I had a Mac, but I had learned, I had learned editing stuff on a Mac. So I just was like, I'm going to get a Mac because I like learned it on there. But like I had an Android phone. Everything else was like Mac base. Like I knew every, you know, I even had a little laptop that was like a fucking HP. Like, know,
Ice Bear (14:13)
So.
Grizz (14:14)
but I had a Mac desktop.
Ice Bear (14:17)
Going back even further, because I think this is more in line with when those commercials started, 20... More like 2005, 2006, because I was still in high school.
Grizz (14:27)
Is it
is at the time when they had the fucking desktop so it was like the see through backs with the colors right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Ice Bear (14:32)
Yes. Yeah, they had those. They had they had
those iMacs But specifically, this was when iPods were still around. So like the first iPhone hadn't come out quite yet. iPods and like all the because there was all the various things, right? There's the original one with the cool tactile wheelie. And so I was very. Counterculture for the sake of it then. So even though a lot of my friends had the iPod and I was just like.
Grizz (14:41)
Do I
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, the
zoom. Yeah, the zoom.
Ice Bear (15:03)
I did not have a Zune. I did eventually get a Zune. That was my compromise. I had a creative Zen nomad, most of high school. And it was fantastic because I remember that was like, we've talked about this before, like Bear, Sharon, Napster, like all those kind of.
You sound like you're vibrating.
Grizz (15:28)
You sound like you're vibrating.
Ice Bear (15:32)
That's wild.
Ice Bear (15:36)
ever have nothing ever happened we've been here the whole time it's all fine
Grizz (15:37)
No, no,
ever happened. We're gaslighting you right now. No, we're not. We're telling you the truth. Who are you gonna believe? Who are you gonna believe? Us or like that lying point fraction of a second?
Ice Bear (15:43)
The whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Mm hmm. Yep. Nothing to see here, boys. So we were talking about anti-disestablishmentarianism and its effect on the European society in the 70s. So let's continue.
Grizz (16:04)
And by that,
by that would mean how flash Gordon was the coolest motherfucker alive. ⁓ Yes.
Ice Bear (16:11)
Okay, what were we actually talking about? ⁓ iPods, iPods
circa high school age. So yeah, I was saying I had a Creative Zen Nomad because I distinctly... Okay, so that was around the time where the max storage iPod was like 16 gigs, maybe 32, like that was the biggest one.
Grizz (16:25)
I don't think I know what those were.
Mm-hmm.
Ice Bear (16:38)
and the Creative Zen Nomad for a third of the price was 256 gigs.
Grizz (16:44)
⁓ totally shit.
Ice Bear (16:46)
Yeah. And so it was, again, it was nonsense because this was still in the days of pure music. Like it wasn't like you were watching videos or anything. So I just had every album in existence. It was.
Grizz (16:54)
Mm-hmm.
Exactly. Yeah. So I had
to save my mind. like, I had, ⁓ so for the longest time before I got my iPod, I had this MP3 player that was like, there's a black and white shitty one. was a cheaper one that you can get at Walmart, but I fucking love that bitch. And what it was, was it was about, it was about this big, right? It was about this big.
It was white and black and the white was like this case and you plug your headphones into it. And the black part you pull out and it was like a USB and you plug it straight to the computer and it had X amount of gigs to it and you would just load it up and you plug it straight in. All right. Dude, I freaking man, it was great. So like, I have an older laptop and like I saw has a headphone jack and it's dope as fuck. But ⁓ yeah, so so I had that.
Ice Bear (17:39)
I miss headphone jacks,
Grizz (17:53)
And I had that for the longest time until I had like the big, the iPod classics, but the big one, I don't know if it was like 160 gigs or whatever it was, the thick ass boy. That's the iPod I had, had it forever. And I'm like, I fucking loved it. I still love it, right? Recently, when I was flying to Washington, this trip,
So the guy like sitting next to me had one and he was listening to his music on that iPod classic. I was like wild for one bro, but like high, very high key jealous.
Ice Bear (18:27)
Yeah, if I saw one in the wild, would be jealous.
Grizz (18:31)
I was watching and I almost wanted to start talking to him. I'm like, you're pretty cool, man. Yeah. But I didn't want to cause he was kind of like, he was like this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I can't tell him nothing. You know what I mean? But like I wanted to cause that's cool as fuck.
Ice Bear (18:35)
What you got there?
yeah, he's he's snoozing.
Mm-hmm.
That is very cool. You know another gadget that I miss dearly? PSP.
Grizz (18:57)
PSP was dope, even the PS Vita.
Ice Bear (18:59)
I love the Vita. The Vita, I still have my Vita. And I still regularly play Persona 4 Golden.
Grizz (19:02)
He doesn't-
I remember the, those are Resident Evil on PSP. That was pretty solid. Yeah.
Ice Bear (19:11)
Mm-hmm.
The reason I brought it up is can you picture the disc cartridge thingy? So am I the only one that foolishly thought that was like an external thing and the disc was supposed to come out of it?
Grizz (19:19)
Yeah. Yeah.
I didn't think it was supposed to come out of it, but I wanted to take the disc out.
Ice Bear (19:32)
I tried
so hard, was like, how do I? And then I was like, wait, oh no. But it got me. I was very confused. I did not understand that at all.
Grizz (19:38)
Yeah
Yeah, I assumed it was like the cartridge, but I wanted to take the discount. Do you do you remember some much less known, but like I loved but much less known and they had that fucking it was ⁓ something surfer it was like some on there those dope and it was in a movie. But I think it was like Ninja Surfer or some shit like that. But ⁓ the Sega Saturn Do you remember that?
Ice Bear (20:09)
I remember the Saturn. I can't think of a game about a surfer.
Grizz (20:13)
say said there's a big ass fucking handheld and he like eight fucking double hit batteries like it's wild. Right?
Ice Bear (20:18)
Mm-hmm. Yeah,
the Saturn and then the... What was the other handheld they did?
Grizz (20:27)
I did it more than one handheld.
Ice Bear (20:29)
Yeah, actually no, Saturn's a console. I think we're thinking of the same thing, because the one I'm thinking of had a shit ton of batteries. What is that called? Game? Sega? Sega?
Grizz (20:36)
Yeah, yeah, I like eight batteries.
Yeah. What is it? It's not the Saturn. Game gear. The game gear. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Ice Bear (20:46)
game game gear yeah yes because
that was like backlit well before like the gameboy advanced SP came out but like you said it used an army of batteries to power that motherfucker and it was a brick
Grizz (20:53)
Yep. Yep.
Yeah,
it was huge. Absolutely huge. ⁓ the game was called surf ninjas.
Ice Bear (21:06)
Mm-hmm. ⁓
It sounds great. I never played it, but it sounds great.
Grizz (21:12)
Fantastic game, super fucking awesome game.
Ice Bear (21:15)
Were
you surfers that used ninja powers or you ninjas that surfed?
Grizz (21:20)
you I don't really think even surfers was the thing it was just like you're a ninjas like a ninja side scroller kind of thing like I'm to be honest but it was called surf ninja I'd be like there probably was surfing in it I probably didn't get far enough to where the surfing started you know what mean I was like I was young
Ice Bear (21:35)
Yeah,
level four. just cowabunga bro. Gnarly.
Grizz (21:40)
Yeah, so
like I probably just sucked to like, I got to the like the parts, you know what I mean? But like, I was not I was not I was not a good, a good game gear player when I was younger. So like, they probably did. But I know there was like a movie about surf ninjas. And like the guy in there and it was like ninjas infiltrating and like with the family and stuff. And there was the kid and they're playing the surf ninja game of the game gear. And like it was kind of like
Ice Bear (22:04)
That's fantastic.
Grizz (22:07)
Yeah, it was a whole thing. And I remember seeing the movie and then going to like my cousin's house who had one. And then they had surf gingers like, holy shit, that's the game from the fucking movie. And it was the coolest shit I ever saw in my life.
Ice Bear (22:21)
It's interesting because that whole era Sega was like a solid generation ahead of everyone else because the Dreamcast was well ahead of all
Grizz (22:29)
Mm-hmm.
The dreamcast
might be a terrible controllers. Dreamcast controllers kind of suck.
Ice Bear (22:38)
They were gigantic and they had weird triggers.
Grizz (22:41)
And then you had the, I mean, I get you had the things I never cat. don't know if it's an Amricar or whatever you put it in the controller or whatever it was. Never had them, but like they were clunky controllers. So I get what people didn't like them, but I remember I played the fuck. So my cousin had a house to the debt too on there. And then he had the guns controllers for the Jim Castle. Like we played that shit for fucking ever.
Ice Bear (22:48)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (23:11)
Right. So like, this is like on the dying thing of arcades. We played a house that all the time in arcades. So going being able to play house of the dead two with guns at home was like a huge thing. played a fuck ton of that. Sonic had like a three like the first 3d Sonic was there. It's like we had like the child thing like great game. played that a fuck ton. ⁓ But the one game I fucking loved is like this random game that like I've tried to bring up
Ice Bear (23:11)
Hmm.
Mmm.
Grizz (23:41)
people like never played it. There was a game on Dreamcast called Air Force Delta. And as you go with games, you unlock more planes. And you're going and it's a first person game. And each plane you ride has different abilities, or you know, they fly better, this and that. But you're going through missions and you're like killing enemy fighters. While you're going it's all first person like I fucking love that game. Air Force Delta.
so fucking good it is so fun
Ice Bear (24:11)
It sounds fun.
I'm trying to remember there's a game ⁓ cast, there's a dream cast game that I really liked. It was not Malibu's most wanted.
Grizz (24:19)
fucking Malibu is most wanted. Where'd you
learn that from? Where's that from? It's like, oh, it's like, well, that PS two or whatever. He's like, the game cast. What's what's? Yeah, I got a game cast. You mean a GameCube or a Dreamcast because there's two gamecasts.
Ice Bear (24:26)
haha
Ha
Speaking of Malibu's most wanted, I encountered a lad in the wild at work the other day that was dressed exactly like him. Like, periwinkle vest, really loud, like leopard print shirt, weird to the side hat for no reason. And this was a white man. Like it's exactly what you're picturing. The... I don't think they were these, but I don't know if you've seen the Trump, like, gold sneakers.
Grizz (24:51)
Ain't no fuckin' way.
You
yeah.
Ice Bear (25:15)
These shoes were reminiscent of that. They had that aura.
Grizz (25:19)
I have a friend that bought those because it was funny. ⁓
Ice Bear (25:23)
Mmm.
Is it funny though?
Grizz (25:28)
I kinda honestly
it's pretty funny. I'm not gonna lie.
Ice Bear (25:33)
Alright.
Alright.
Okay, I found it. It's called Bomber He-He.
Grizz (25:42)
I never heard of that in my life.
Ice Bear (25:43)
The the
I think it was a Japan exclusive because I remember my childhood best friend at the time she would always Just download the games like one of those people that was ahead of their time and could download all the all the software onto What he called where they see the arrows or DVD ours? Whatever they were on at that point But would just download games so had this game. It's in Japanese and the premise of it is you had a building
And you just set demolition points. you know, like you'd aim for like pivot points of the structure and you just try and knock out as much of the building as you can with a set number of bombs. And then the thing I vividly remember about it is I'm going to have to take off the headphones for this. If you succeeded in like totally annihilating the building, the cute little anime girl that was like assessing your building demolition would go.
like that. It was always just like a spin out of nowhere like and just one of the one of these and chew and so every time I see a building like on TV get demolished like
Grizz (26:46)
Ha ha ha!
Hahaha! ⁓
So how many chews did it take for building Seven Devils?
Ice Bear (27:04)
It's just
a singular chew. And every time I do see one of the 9-11 memes that goes through my head. sent you a delightful Seattle bar that has a twin pint towers. Have you seen places with like the yard of beer? like the third. So it's that it's two towers of beer. And then they have a little
Grizz (27:08)
You
Yeah.
Ice Bear (27:34)
flight of shots, but they're carried in a plane thing. Like the server brings it out to the beer towers like that. like, okay, good, good on you. We've come, we've come a long way.
Grizz (27:47)
Now if the server comes out and
like, here comes the airplane, would be even better.
Ice Bear (27:54)
I wasn't listening with sound on so I suspect there's a chance they might have done that.
Grizz (27:58)
All right.
If they do that, my God. So here's the thing. I have, I'll get it one night when I get my second beer. I have, I bought recently bought for city walking. I bought, ⁓ wireless lavalier mics for receivers. So once old gris has to move to old Washington.
Ice Bear (28:18)
issues.
⁓ my.
Grizz (28:28)
and you come visit that means we can have 2B2B guerrilla fashion at bars and or at breweries.
Ice Bear (28:32)
Ugh.
Gorilla style.
gorilla style I love it
Grizz (28:44)
And so we'll be able to record an episode while we're there and getting our beers.
Ice Bear (28:50)
Be honest with me. Am I the only one that was foolish enough as a youth to think that guerrilla warfare was like Harambe guerrillas?
Grizz (29:01)
⁓
Ice Bear (29:02)
as opposed to like GUI
Grizz (29:05)
Probably in the sense, only reason why is by the time I learned about it, like during the American Revolution, I was obsessed with Medicare solid. So when I talked about warfare, was like,
Ice Bear (29:19)
Ha ha ha!
Grizz (29:21)
We talk about gorilla warfare. So I was studying it. was like, gee, what does that mean? They come from trees like monkeys. And I was like, no, they ain't following regular formation plans. And I'm like, ⁓ the rebels. So that was the only reason why I didn't fall. But I'm sure that happened to a lot of people. But I was just obsessed with Medicare solid. Medicare got me young.
Ice Bear (29:48)
Well, well done Metal Gear snake
Grizz (29:49)
So for
the longest time, my ringtone was for my text for text was saying, I was saying nice. That was my thing.
Ice Bear (29:58)
that little alert thing up up up even better
Very good.
Grizz (30:09)
But I remember being in fifth grade and like, remember seeing like 9-11 happen like from the TV in the corner kind of thing, right? And so for history class, we had to write what we thought about it, what we're worried about, you know? And I'm like, ⁓ it's the Terry's, the Terry's are coming. I was worried about that, right? In fifth grade. I'm fucking knee deep in Medgar's solid lore. So I'm like, I'm worried about the terrorists getting some nukes and they're going to shoot him.
Right. And I remember writing the essay and having in there and my teacher like circling nukes and putting on a question mark. Like, what is this? And I'm like, you know what a fucking nuke is? Really? You can only fucking blame can turn our whole country into glass. What are you talking about? You're a teacher. You don't know. I remember being so pissed off that I got marked off for a nuke.
Ice Bear (30:51)
Mm.
So my memory from that first day after, in Spanish class, our teacher was like, I think it would be better use of our time to kind of go around the room. And if anyone feels like they need to say anything, get it out. And we'll just kind of have a roundtable discussion today. Mind you, I was in seventh grade. So we weren't that old. This is not the age that should have a roundtable discussion on the only
terrorist attack on American soil in modern times. So, but we did. And so we're going around the room and a lot of people are like, I don't know, I'm scared. I'm just nervous. And as you know, I grew up near DC. So quite a few of us had parents that worked at the Pentagon. And so we were like, I'm just glad my dad's okay or my mom's okay or whatever. And then we've, we've made it full circle. And we get to the cool guy in class, you know, the
everyone has that that guy in class this was the cool guy so everyone's like all right what's he gonna say and he just it's real serious and he has a sweet little that little buzz cut with the this much hair like pointed up with the gel tips ⁓ but it was the cool guy cut so he had it and he had his his his like silver chain like thick silver chain necklace it was probably like fifteen dollars worth of steel but anyway and he goes
Grizz (32:16)
Dude, I fucking hate it. I hate it. ⁓ my God. hate it.
Ice Bear (32:33)
Let's go to war. It's just it's his desk and like people like
He got a slow clap. I'm like, what just happened? Is this the man that's gonna send us to war? Yes, there was war hawks just a ton of war hawks
Grizz (32:45)
bunch a bunch of little McCain's in there fucking bunch a of little
McCain's and a jet bus in the background that
Ice Bear (32:59)
Hold on, no, the Wu wasn't Jeb Bush, was it? No. That was Howard Dean.
Grizz (33:02)
What's your place? That was Jeff Bush.
No fucking way. it, Howard Dean? I'm pretty sure Jen and Jeff Bush do a, no, it probably was Howard Dean. Jeff Bush was just a really shitty person.
Ice Bear (33:10)
I'm, I'm fair.
Because if it's what I'm thinking of, the Howard Dean clip was him getting excited about his campaign trail. He's like, we're going to Missouri and Iowa and Nebraska and Tennessee. Yah!
Grizz (33:21)
You, yep. Yep. Yep. It was a think because, yep, that's it. Cause
that was it. Cause he was like on the top. He was like the front runner. Everybody was and then ⁓ he went to think that you're to think your entire campaign to root to, to run to like,
Ice Bear (33:37)
You
destroyed his campaign absolutely ruined his campaign
Grizz (33:49)
be a figurehead of a country is ruined by a WEEE
Ice Bear (33:51)
Ha ha
ha
Grizz (33:55)
Yeah, it totally was Howard Deet. I was I don't know why I always like put Jeb Bush in there but Jeb Bush didn't make it to anything because that was during like the time when Trump came in.
Ice Bear (34:03)
It has Jeb Bush
energy. ⁓
Grizz (34:07)
It really does have
to push energy, but like, Jeff Bush was just outshatted by like, that was around all like the, the real meme energy with Trump. So it was always like the shoe would have, you would have been in prison and like all the other stuff. And like, so like he was just completely outclassed and shadow outshadowed. But yeah, it was Howard Dean.
Ice Bear (34:24)
Have you seen,
have you seen any of these old political clips circulating where it's Romney and Obama's debate or Obama and McCain and they just kind of clip the things where they're just really cordial with each other and McCain being like, no, I'm not going to say that about him. He's a good man. He's a family man. think we just have different worldviews. And you're like, what the fuck didn't
Grizz (34:52)
Yeah.
Well, people forget. like, here's the thing. When I talk to people and like, they're in their twenties, this is like their first, the first election they ever had a thing was like Trump of Biden. I'm like, so they have no thing of what it was like before. Cause you had to think like what 2016 was fucking nearly 10 years ago. It's nearly a decade ago. Like it's wild. Do you think that like
Ice Bear (35:15)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Grizz (35:20)
where I started giving a fuck when I was like a teenager was like fucking occupy Wall Street and half the motherfuckers don't even know what that is. So that's insane.
Ice Bear (35:26)
mhm yep yep
So the first election I remember being, like I was very aware of Gore Bush, but I was paying attention and like relatively involved with Clinton Dole.
Grizz (35:47)
I remember Clinton Dole. I was a kid, but I remember because my parents were so into it. I do remember a lot of little things. When I read stuff about him, kind of like a, I can place it into an appointed time. The one I remember the most, I was still a young kid was, uh, was Bush Gore. Cause I remember my dad for being, um, the criminal he was. My dad's pretty Republican.
Ice Bear (36:17)
Ha ha
Grizz (36:18)
It's very interesting. Um, but like, but yeah, so he's the general, the general innings, but he still liked Al Gore. I, and I remember that being a thing because I remember during this time during school, in elementary school, like we would have like presidential votes where we would vote for Al Gore or the president of candidates. And we're like fucking a bunch of dumb ass fifth graders still voting for, you know what I mean? And so like, I remember, I remember picking Al Gore cause my dad liked Al Gore.
Ice Bear (36:26)
Mmm.
Hmm. Yeah. Yeah.
Do you want to guess who I voted for when we did that in my class?
Grizz (36:51)
Al Gore. This is the beginning of the Internet. Fuck it. Fuck. Fucking Jill Stein. I couldn't remember fucking Nader's name. So like Jill Stein is the other one. This is the other candidate.
Ice Bear (36:56)
Any other stabs?
Ralph Nader. And I was dead serious too.
we had to do do they still do summer book reports like for the cub it's like during summer break there's no book reports or anything okay so so we had a book report and there's maybe a list of i don't know like 17 books and you had to pick one and do a report on it so the one i did was unsafe at any speed by ralph nader and sure enough i was like
Grizz (37:20)
Yeah, we never had that. She never had that. I had that.
⁓ I got you.
Ice Bear (37:38)
It got me. I was easily possessed. he cares. He cares about the Corvair and the weird dangerous fin on the back of it. And now we have a nadir light, which is great. Like the rear light for breaking. That's because of Ralph Nader. And I was like, what a nice man. He gave us lights on our cars. You've gotten my vote. That's all it takes.
Grizz (38:01)
Hahaha!
You're really listening for most people to vote for people. It takes less than that.
Ice Bear (38:10)
I know. All right. I want my second one. Do you want to fetch yours or do you want me to fetch mine? Okay. So I suspect that our beloved Grizz is perhaps what some would call a communist. And I think he is a big Che Guevara fan.
Grizz (38:12)
Hahaha!
Yeah, I will be mine. Ready, set,
I hit my heel and it hurt me.
Ice Bear (38:38)
no, that's not good at all.
Grizz (38:40)
I tried to just muscle through it, I had to tell you before I my handphones on.
Ice Bear (38:45)
I was just telling the people that
you're a lovely man and ⁓ we're lucky to have you.
Grizz (38:50)
I
think you just appreciate it. Ice Bear is a lovely man and we're lucky to have him too. He's a good fella. He's thick and thin. He's a good guy. I'm pretty sure he said something really bad about me. So I'm gonna just say really good things about him to make him feel bad when he hears this. Well, Ice Bear.
Ice Bear (38:54)
I'm gonna go grab mine up here.
Grizz (39:17)
It's a lot of good things in my life I can attribute to him. He's a great guy. Deathly in his debt.
Ice Bear (39:26)
Did I tell you that the seal made Filipino spaghetti tonight?
⁓ No, we got like the Philip the Filipino spaghetti sauce and instead of hot dogs did it with longanisa It's so good
Grizz (39:40)
Oh fuck, holy shit. Damn. Dude, I don't
know if it's a Filipino thing, but like banana ketchup, you what talking about? Dude, oh my God, bro.
Ice Bear (39:50)
Uh-huh.
That's pretty much what this Filipino spaghetti sauce is. It's tomato tomato paste. Shit ton of sugar.
Grizz (39:55)
Yeah. But yeah.
But fucking banana ketchup, Filipino banana ketchup. I'm assuming it's Filipino. I've only ever had it with Filipinos. my God. It's just fucking.
Ice Bear (40:11)
If I had a gun to my head, and I could only have one sauce for the rest of my life.
Grizz (40:19)
Ooh, that's actually kind of hard for me to be honest.
Ice Bear (40:21)
Okay, here, there's a gun to your head.
Grizz (40:26)
What kind of sauce?
Ice Bear (40:27)
Okay,
me top three. It doesn't matter. You have three condiments the rest of your life.
Grizz (40:31)
condiments not just to not like dish sauces just condiments. Okay. Tastes my answer because I was thinking it's also like Alfredo sauce. I was thinking like bolognese. Okay, we take those out. We do condiments easy. ketchup, a spicy ketchup, go spicy ketchup, Worcestershire and fuck it. I guess salsa sauce.
Ice Bear (40:36)
condiments in general.
Sure, yeah. Okay, those are all good answers.
Grizz (40:57)
Fuck. I
have sauces. OK, Ketchup, spice. I asked if salsa was the sauce.
Ice Bear (41:02)
You gave them the gun. No, you can't redo it. The gun was to your head. Those are your answers
And I said yes and you said it. Okay.
Grizz (41:10)
why I didn't pick it. So if
salsa was a sauce, I'm going ketchup, salsa, and something else. But if it's not a sauce, I'm not going. But ketchup, what should I order salsa? But then, Kewpie Mayo is number three.
Ice Bear (41:26)
I bet the seal would pick that. I'm going to have to ask her when we're done. Keep emails very good. I'm not going to say it's not, but you ready for this?
Grizz (41:30)
Toopy mail?
there's all ranch. I'm fine with all ranch either too.
Ice Bear (41:39)
Okay, this first one, easy. No brainer for me. Mangtomas. Done. Second one. Chick-fil-A Polynesian sauce.
Grizz (41:44)
fuck.
Is that like a Canadian thing? that over here to a granted out? Okay, because I've only had Chick-fil-A like four times in my life.
Ice Bear (41:54)
you for sure have it there.
I would bathe in pollination sauce. It's fantastic. And last but not least.
Grizz (42:03)
Check for polymers, alright, alright.
Ice Bear (42:11)
It might be keeping me.
Grizz (42:13)
Coupi Mayo is
a fucking thing of the guys. I'm talking about like, Coupi Mayo?
Ice Bear (42:21)
The seal does a really good crab salad with it. And it's just, it's fantastic. I think it is.
Grizz (42:27)
Real crab imitation
crab.
Ice Bear (42:30)
imitation normally, which I prefer to real crab. For a crab salad, yes, because it's stringy and it's more... If I'm doing a crab cake, give me a real crab.
Grizz (42:33)
Really? Okay, that's interesting.
Yeah. Yeah. No, I,
yeah. I fuck with imitation crap. Cause it's basically just Pollock and Pollock's great. It's a great fish. It's a great fish. So like you get Pollock to taste a little more like crap. of like, cause then even at that, you know, like you can get like the imitation crab sticks out like whole foods for like $5 and it's a good pack.
Ice Bear (42:46)
is fantastic yeah
Yeah, imitation crab is a good macro budget. It's a great food.
Grizz (43:07)
Like one, one of the things that, know, when like tick-tock people know they do these shitty ass fucking recipes and stuff. The one thing that I'm like, it's pretty dope is like those fucking sushi bakes, or they just do like fucking rice, imitation crab, Kewpie, Sriracha and like seaweed, like Nori basically. And they just oven roast it. That looks fucking dope as shit. Like it looks delicious.
Ice Bear (43:31)
Hmm. Yeah, it really does. Every now and again, there's a there's a meal on TikTok that I'm like, that looks fantastic, and we need to try it.
Grizz (43:41)
Like it's fucking no winter. It's right there. All right. Second one. It's easy. It's also no lie or no Lee. don't know. I'm assuming it's no lie.
Ice Bear (43:45)
Give me your second one.
⁓ hello.
I would think.
Grizz (43:55)
This is.
Juicy Squatch.
Ice Bear (43:59)
Ha ha!
Grizz (44:03)
It is juicy. It's an 8.5. This is an imperial haze, not a juicy haze. So slightly stronger.
Ice Bear (44:04)
I love it.
So you had a nine and an 8.5?
Grizz (44:14)
I had a nine and a 9.5.
Ice Bear (44:16)
nine and a nine point five. You're a powerful little lad. Hopside was a weak little bitch beer. It was a five and a half. Now my second one. This is the one I meant to do last time. And I was extremely excited for but I held off on it. So this is the same brewery that did the original S tier beer. So I have very high hopes for this. This is
Grizz (44:21)
Uhhhh
Damn.
Ice Bear (44:44)
I have no information on this because the only thing in English is the title. Interesting. It does. It's just it's a little bit brighter, but not by much.
Grizz (44:46)
It looks almost the same.
Yeah, I don't know if there are much difference actually.
Ice Bear (45:01)
It's a juicy squash and an Imperial squash. And to go with it.
Grizz (45:04)
Also juicy squatch
was a fucking C, maybe even a C minus to be honest.
Ice Bear (45:08)
I
think HopSideepa was a...
C plus is good is better is better than it was bad still on the on good side and now I'm I'm I have very high hopes for this this is our strong boy of the day this clocks in and hold on where's my ABV clocks in at 12 % this is this is golden Carolus Christmas
Grizz (45:32)
Goddamn.
Merry Christmas!
Ice Bear (45:41)
So we're a little early for the holiday, but hey, summer solstice.
Grizz (45:44)
It's in there. We're still in June. This is Christmas in July. But
Ice Bear (45:50)
I'm gonna drink it out of the
bottle, but I just wanted to get a color of it. So we'll wait. I ruined the poor. It's deeply embarrassing. How dare you call me on that.
Grizz (45:57)
I was
actually just super excited about seeing the cover. what are we thinking? fuck.
Ice Bear (46:11)
No, it might be great. It's just, it's a very effervescent. Like it's, it's a, it's a, it's not a taste thing. It's a, it's a mouth feel thing. Like it's instantly like super bubbly.
Grizz (46:23)
okay.
Ice Bear (46:27)
And it's...
You know what? You know what this has that I hate? It's got that, that, ⁓ what do you call it? The licorice-y anise? An ice? Anis?
Grizz (46:41)
An Easter fennel
⁓
Ice Bear (46:46)
It's got
that smell and it's strong.
Grizz (46:50)
BLEH! BLEH!
Ice Bear (46:58)
I mean, no, I think what's throwing me off is I had just had a mouthful of the elote Pringles. I think once that gets out of my mouth, this might actually be great. There's the color.
Grizz (46:59)
Nah man.
damn, okay.
Yeah, I don't know, man, like a niece in anything outside of like Italian sausage.
Ice Bear (47:23)
It's not on the ingredients list, which is interesting. It says water, barley malt, wheat malt, sugar, brown sugar, yeast, hops, spices, ⁓ spices. Yeah, it's probably.
Grizz (47:34)
Yeah,
it's in there. It's in there.
Ice Bear (47:43)
So you guys watched Barbarian. We watched The Accountant. Have you ever seen The Accountant?
Grizz (47:47)
Yeah, that's right.
That sounds super familiar actually.
Ice Bear (47:56)
It's our boy Ben Affleck, he is, and this is not me using this in a derogatory fashion. This is just the nature of the movie. He is a grownup autist whose father thought, you know how you deal with autism? Teach your kid to fight a billion different fighting styles as you grow up in army bases all around the world. And your brother is the dude that plays the Punisher. So that is...
Grizz (48:21)
Which
which one like like the doctor of ultra-punisher or like warzone?
Ice Bear (48:25)
John John Berthold the show
Grizz (48:29)
okay, okay, okay, okay.
Ice Bear (48:31)
Who's fan- I love that guy. I think he's a fantastic actor.
Grizz (48:34)
He's a good actor, but I do think the best punisher.
Ice Bear (48:38)
Thomas Jane one, we've talked about this. We both like that one.
Grizz (48:42)
Yeah, but I do like him just as the face of the Punisher the most.
Ice Bear (48:49)
Which one?
Grizz (48:49)
Like if we're
just talking about just just aesthetics, like not even like how they did. Like when I think of like John the John Travolta movie Punisher, I do like him as a Punisher the most.
Ice Bear (49:02)
Yeah, Thomas Jane looks like the comic book Punisher. He has that big, fat, square jawed,
Grizz (49:09)
Yeah. The, I would say probably the war zone. What's, I don't know if it's like the Punisher war zone that maybe they came in after that one. He looks a lot like the comic book Punisher, probably even more to be honest. But like, when it comes to like, just like real life, like not a character, like, you know what I mean? The guy, I think, I think our boy is the best Punisher there is as far as like looks.
Ice Bear (49:17)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
The other thing I wonder is if you gave either of those other two or even Dolph Lundgren from the 80s, if you gave them the script that John had.
Grizz (49:43)
yeah.
I don't know. I think maybe the show guy, he could probably do it just as good.
Ice Bear (49:51)
I think-
I think he's, I think the guy from the show, I always butcher his name. think it's Bartholomew or Bertholomew. don't know. Anyway, people know who I'm talking about. I think he's a phenomenal actor. think he's the best actor, but I think the dude that was in the, movie that we both like the original Punisher feature length film with Thomas Jane. He's a great actor. He could easily do the show. Like he fits that character quite well.
Grizz (50:17)
Yeah. Yeah.
I would probably like the show. would instantly watch the show if he was part of it. Because like, definitely my favorite Punisher by far was my favorite comic book one would be precisely because of him. Side characters are great and everything was great. The movie is great. But like, yeah, he was fucking perfect for that movie.
Ice Bear (50:47)
There's a few things over the years casting wise where I'm like, that's exactly how I wanted that character to look when it came time for live action.
Grizz (51:00)
Who's hit it like that for you?
Ice Bear (51:05)
who's like spot on casting wise ⁓ let's think oscar isaac is moon knight is perfect absolutely loved that show i think he was exactly how i pictured him ⁓ henry cavill i think is a perfect superman
Grizz (51:07)
Mm.
Yeah, I think Henry Cavill's probably the best. Like I can't imagine any modern day actor being a Superman. I'm not even like, I'm not a fan of Superman in general. So DC like property.
Ice Bear (51:32)
I'm very excited
for the new movie. I'm extremely excited.
Grizz (51:36)
Never been super like super big on Superman even like in the comic book stuff for like the Justice League things I can never been a he's never been my dude. I've always been a Batman kid, but like When I think of Superman now like Henry Cavill matches like what I imagined Superman being you know what mean, so I can definitely agree to that
Ice Bear (51:52)
Mm. Yeah.
We were just talking about this the other night. Here's my fan casting for when James Gunn does a new Batman. Because the Robert Pattinson one, I love it. It's great. I think it's absolutely fantastic, but it's not going to be part of the official DC universe. So they are going to have a different Batman in the Brave and the Bold. And I sincerely hope that they get the dude from 1923. I can never think of his name.
Grizz (52:25)
1920.
Ice Bear (52:25)
It's the Yellowstone
spin-off.
Grizz (52:31)
Yeah, I'll get up real quick.
Ice Bear (52:32)
⁓ Brendan's Clenner?
What else has this guy been in?
Brandon's glimmer. It ends with us drop the housemaid Emily the criminal Yellowstone blah blah blah. He's in a bunch of random stuff. But anyway, in the in 1923 thing, the thing I really like about him is it's it's the perfect energy for Batman. And I when I say that, I mean, it's he's very masculine, but not in a way that's
Grizz (53:03)
Mm-hmm.
Ice Bear (53:11)
unrealistic or overbearing. Like this, because that show is obviously set in 1923. So like, if a dude needs to be punched in the face, he's not going to try and talk it out for us. He's just popping him in face and breaking his nose. If there's a woman being harassed, he helps them immediately. Like it's just a it's a good I don't know.
Grizz (53:18)
Team.
Yeah, so, okay.
So who, when you say masculine but not like, what would be a bad example of like a masculine in the overbearing way?
Ice Bear (53:41)
⁓ okay. Conor McGregor.
Grizz (53:47)
What the fuck out of here?
Ice Bear (53:49)
There
you go. There you go. There's that. That.
Grizz (54:01)
so it could be be that even though he's like same energy but like not the same energy but the same amount of same amount of like probably even more a little more
Ice Bear (54:05)
No, Khabib.
No.
No, I'm cool with Khabib. Khabib's not throwing women in the bathroom stalls that I know of. Khabib's not trying to square up with random NBA players on the sideline for no reason.
Grizz (54:12)
⁓
Yeah.
I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm more fine with the squaring up a random people than the other one. But like, guess, I guess I don't equate that to masculinity. You know what I mean? So those things don't pop in my head necessarily. When I think about masculinity, but I do. But I get what you mean. But it's more of like the, I don't know what you would call it. Cause like Conor McGregor is not necessarily one that's like.
Ice Bear (54:31)
As one should be.
Grizz (54:56)
There's no fake for a brother because he is like whether you like him or not like one of the baddest motherfuckers around as far as like when it comes to writing he's just cocky and like it's like Floyd Mayweather like you can fucking hate him all you want but he's still one of the greatest and you know I hate him
Ice Bear (55:07)
Mm-hmm.
⁓ Yeah, I'm
trying to think of what the particular mindset is that I like in a character.
I think it is the...
restraint to not use force when unnecessary, but willing to use it immediately when it is. Because that's the other thing that characters in movies now and shows will do that kind of drives me nuts, where they kind of pull off the gas a little too much. Like they give people little too much free rein, a little too long a leash.
Grizz (55:35)
That's fair. So like
So here's the thing, I may be off on this, but one of the things that I know recently, I completely agree with that, but it feels like male characters are like that and it feels like the female characters are trying too hard to be tough. So then they like are overly aggressive for things that don't necessarily mean to. So like you think of like, what was the, was it Marvel, the Ms. Marvel or Captain Marvel?
Ice Bear (56:14)
Captain. Okay. Blonde lady. Yeah.
Grizz (56:15)
Yeah. Yeah.
So it was like, obviously when they say, should smile. It's like, obviously I think to be annoying. Like, like they put that in there to be annoying, but then like she beats the fuck out of him, steals his shit and steals his bicycle bike and everything. And like, okay, well that's kind of like a, an over when you think about it, like you just beat a man up with super, you have superpowers. You beat a man up, stole his shit and they can commit a grand theft auto because he told you to smile.
Ice Bear (56:23)
Uh-huh.
Huh.
Grizz (56:43)
I get that that's supposed to be like a sticking point, like that seems excessive.
So
Ice Bear (56:52)
I need to rewatch that because I remember enjoying that movie a great deal.
Grizz (56:55)
Cause I feel like it's one of those where they're trying to make the female characters more masculine. So they like, do you like this shitty again, like the Connor McGregor kind of like little things of like being masculine. And then they make the other guys more stoic and then like they let more way too much of it slide. Like it feels weird. I don't know.
Ice Bear (57:14)
Mm.
I guess it's just... it boils down to... not realism, because there are people at weird extremes like that. Just a more measured reaction to things.
Grizz (57:34)
So
you know who's like completely not realistic at any way, or form, but fucking amazing that is extreme Rorschach from Watchmen.
Ice Bear (57:45)
⁓ very good example. Yes.
Grizz (57:47)
Rorschach
completely extreme. He's a fucking absolutist fricking type thing like black or white, wrong or right kind of like just judgment thing. He's completely like not realistic in that sense, but an absolute amazing carrier. He's a fucking brute, brutal as fuck, but still like measured in all the right ways.
Ice Bear (58:13)
I'm
So I'm doubly inspired. One, I now want to rewatch Watchmen because I haven't seen that in probably 15 years. It's been a very long, I need to rewatch that now through the lens of an adult that has a little more jaded. The other thing that that makes me want to rewatch that I feel like both of us would love it if we watched it today is V for Vendetta.
Grizz (58:29)
Mm-hmm.
yeah. Even with the same. I agree. Just even just the whole V monologue five issues. So cool. Yeah.
Ice Bear (58:42)
I liked it back then, but I bet I would really like it now.
⁓ Hugo Weaving's monologue
so good in that vivacious vitriol. Like you said, it's it's so good. And Natalie Portman is great at that too.
Grizz (59:02)
I forget that I've always forget it's not an appointment. Give me on but she has you she was great. The movie was fantastic. But when I remember, I haven't seen like a decade or two before when I remember fantastic.
Ice Bear (59:04)
Mm-hmm
I wonder how
hard that hits for our BritBong listeners now that they're really in pretty much a surveillance state.
Grizz (59:22)
true. Here's the thing though, like when people like talk about all this stuff, they're so like in their diatribe of like, what side they are, they don't even realize that they're in surveillance or whatever, like the over encompassing thing. And it's like,
That was such a good one. That was so like, love V for vendetta. The whole guy Fox mass is super cool. It's also kind of funny that like Guy Fox is a figurehead for like some anarchists and stuff.
Ice Bear (59:52)
It really is.
and like the anonymous thing.
Grizz (1:00:01)
But like Guy Fawkes was like, he was like a Catholic fundamentalist. He was like, the government's not being religious enough. I'm going to overthrow this motherfucker. And so I'm like, that's kind of funny. Yeah.
Ice Bear (1:00:15)
You're not supposed to know about that.
You're not supposed to remember. Remember the 5th of November, the gunpowder trees and a plot. You're not supposed to know that whole thing.
Grizz (1:00:23)
Yeah. So,
so like, you know, it's pretty dope. I'll give them that. That's so fucking cool.
Ice Bear (1:00:34)
It really is.
Grizz (1:00:36)
I also like how anonymous is like this. People treat like this whole organization when it was just basically like an on from fucking fortune. It was
Ice Bear (1:00:47)
Speaking
of, have you seen what they're doing in the Iran Israel conflict? It's back. It's fully back. Yeah, it's back again. So ⁓ they have they have been pinpointing ⁓ Israel's Iron Dome defense points so that Iran can like knock out the defenses.
Grizz (1:00:52)
I did it.
No, wait, did 4chan like come back? ⁓ fuck yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Shit I mean that sounds very fortune to be honest
Ice Bear (1:01:19)
Yeah, so
I don't know if you saw ⁓ yesterday prior to the US getting involved today. ⁓ Iran had started using cluster bombs for the first time. So there's one video leaked where, you know, like, you know, they blow up in the sky, and then they kind of like spiderweb like 20 bombs out of that bomb. And one of them was just a direct hit on the, like the Iron Dome defense.
Grizz (1:01:27)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, yeah.
Ice Bear (1:01:49)
missile thing, just blew up that whole street corner. was wild to watch, but yeah, apparently that was because of ⁓ 4chan just being like, we got you, we'll find the thing.
Grizz (1:02:02)
The thing is like four chance, four, four chance. Like I would put them in like chaotic neutral because like, I remember back with like during the polar, give me like, like back in like pole when they got an ISIS, uh, they got an ISIS training camp bombed by the, by the EU or like, or like by like, uh, Eastern European country, because it was like,
Ice Bear (1:02:12)
For most boards.
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (1:02:30)
They were like, what is this play? And they found the coordinates based on like the videos and like the structures and stuff. And like they posted it and like one of them just like happened to have a family member in it. So they sent him the coordinates and then they went down and they fucking Bobbed him. And it was like, it was like anime avatars saying like, I'm telling mom what we took down the terries. You know what I mean? Like, and it's like.
Ice Bear (1:02:50)
You
Grizz (1:02:56)
It's so wild. Like, is this board people doing crazy shit? You know?
Ice Bear (1:03:03)
How many attendees do you think that kid got?
Grizz (1:03:06)
I hope at least eight.
Ice Bear (1:03:08)
at least eight tendies
Grizz (1:03:10)
for taking down the cherries.
I just watched I don't know is a meme. I don't know how what part of the park it was. It was a gym page posted it was like when you like go home or whatever and it's like having 300 grams of protein and 1000 milligrams of caffeine or some shit and it was Cartman inside the restroom with the toilet and he had he has like the leather fucking switch and he's like walking around he's like oh you like that and he's like
He's like hitting the toilet that you're going to take it. He's like getting the toilet.
Ice Bear (1:03:49)
⁓ god no.
Grizz (1:03:52)
I'm sorry.
Ice Bear (1:03:55)
That it is amazing that that show has been able to produce timely episodes for what 20 years now? Like the way they produce when the seasons are on they are referencing things that happened like five days ago.
Grizz (1:04:08)
Yeah, actually,
Yeah, it's It's really true.
Ice Bear (1:04:17)
It's amazing how quick they're able to crank out an episode.
I guess it helps when you have like two guys doing what, like 95 % of your voice acting? Because it's pretty much all Trey and Matt do most of it, I think.
Grizz (1:04:30)
True.
Yeah, yeah,
I'm pretty sure they do all of it, basically all of it. ⁓ Which is very true. Do you remember like their faggot, their COVID special was great? The fucking Made in China one was amazing. Or no, it was a band in China, the band in China when it was like the band and...
Ice Bear (1:04:37)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
Grizz (1:04:52)
Super solid.
Ice Bear (1:04:55)
I'm trying to think. In recent memory, the one that made me laugh the hardest was the
What's the guys? What's the one guy's dad that starts the weed farm? Is that Stan's dad or Kyle's dad? Stan's dad? Yeah. And ⁓ he wants one of the Japanese toilets. And he goes to them, they have like the private lounge room for the Japanese section. ⁓ god, yes. And the bidet gets him and he's like, I need it. I don't care, I'll cash.
Grizz (1:05:09)
Stand me up. Stand. Yeah.
Hey, how are you?
You
It's so good. It's 1000 % amazing.
Ice Bear (1:05:39)
But days, what an invention.
Grizz (1:05:42)
Good stuff. It looks like you have had it.
Ice Bear (1:05:44)
I've been trying to talk the seal into wanting one, and she just doesn't tickle her fancy at all.
Grizz (1:05:52)
So Tiger is not a fan of him either.
Ice Bear (1:05:56)
I don't... they're great.
Grizz (1:05:58)
So some
tigers like it just blows the front bits to the back bits and it's not the back bits of the front bits and it's just like, nah. And I'm like, I mean, I guess I kind of understand. I only got one bits and those bits need cleaning and it's perfect.
Ice Bear (1:06:14)
Yeah.
I never thought, you know, it really is kind of a, I never thought of that. It is kind of a gender sensitive thing, isn't it?
Grizz (1:06:22)
Yeah, I never thought of
I mean, the fact that the seals are like, as I'm trying to think like this more Mary, I get the tiger sink to it, but the tiger's like, tiger's very specific in what she. Yeah. Same. I never thought of it too, until she said it.
Ice Bear (1:06:39)
But that's a reasonable complaint, I never thought of it that way.
Cause obviously we're just getting our little taints blasted and there's no nothing wrong with that.
Grizz (1:06:49)
Yeah, it's just awesome. This is awesome stuff, you know.
Ice Bear (1:06:53)
warm water and gentle music and then it air dries you. It's fantastic. ⁓
Grizz (1:06:58)
Yeah, so what
more can you want I feel like a fucking king
Ice Bear (1:07:03)
I will tell you there's nothing more powerful feeling than walking through a Don Quixote being a foot taller than everyone else having loaded up on cheap street food and then blowing up the fifth floor bathroom and then having it having it soothe your naked bottom before you walk out and reassert your dominance.
Hahaha
Grizz (1:07:35)
So do you know it's all machine or do you imagine it's a bunch of little people in there?
Ice Bear (1:07:42)
Now I'm gonna do that. But at the time, no, it was clearly a machine. Now for the rest of time, it will be just an army of small little people soothing my bum.
Grizz (1:07:44)
Just blowing you dry.
way it should
be. We're basically Xerxes in modern times.
I'm pretty sure this is Roxy's treatment.
Ice Bear (1:08:07)
⁓ no. And then you're walking out and you accidentally get a paper cut and you're like...
Grizz (1:08:19)
Did you ever
watch the second, the sequel?
Ice Bear (1:08:23)
Okay, I I bought it because at the time I Don't remember if I've told I've I don't remember. No, I wish it was that an excuse for like that at the time Blu-ray had not yet won the war with HD DVD So I had an Xbox 360 and I got the HD DVD attachment drive So I owned 300 on HD DVD
Grizz (1:08:24)
I never watched it. I couldn't.
Red box.
Ice Bear (1:08:53)
and a blu-ray that's how much i like 300 because i don't know at the time i just liked it i like the is bloody and splattery it's not good it's not a good it's not a good movie
Grizz (1:08:54)
Mmm.
Have you ever watched it recently? It doesn't stand up. doesn't stand I
remember when it first came out, that shit was like, have you seen this movie? I remember watching it recently. I was like, what the fuck is this?
Ice Bear (1:09:10)
Yeah, it did not.
Yeah, it's not it's not good. It's
very indulgent. It's a lot of kind of cringy. Snyder is a weird guy. He's a weird guy. It doesn't hold up at all. But at the time, I liked it a lot. So yes, when the sequel came out, I bought it immediately. And I distinctly remember falling asleep. So it's it's it's quite bad from from the chance I gave it and then it put me to sleep.
Grizz (1:09:23)
Yeah.
I fucking loved it, I loved it.
It's not what it's not good. It's worse than the original. I will still say like I still enjoy 300. It just doesn't stand out. It's like how stupid flash Gordon looks to us. 300s this is there.
Ice Bear (1:09:56)
There's
There are scenes from it that would still get me kind of hyped, but overall it's not a good movie.
Grizz (1:10:09)
It's straight up Gerard Butler. Like, so like, the Gerard Butler focus, like where he's hyping people up. Great. Well, when it's not Gerard Butler, like doing this shit, it's like
Ice Bear (1:10:10)
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
You know, it's interesting. The movies that have the lowest budgets tend to hold up the best. Because when I'm thinking of a movie that hits exactly the same as it did the first time I saw it or better, it's shit like my cousin Vinny. Groundhog Day.
Grizz (1:10:42)
⁓
I swear to God.
Ice Bear (1:10:46)
Home Alone. It's things like that kind of like early 90s minimal budget all practical effects like
Grizz (1:10:48)
Yeah.
I
swear to god, has hurt me more when the tiger just didn't give a fuck about me because of any.
that bothered me so much. And like it the youths man it bothered me so much. So I was like, I don't want to show her anything anymore. My cousin Vinny is the perfect the perfect film.
Ice Bear (1:11:02)
My cousin, the Utes.
It's, you know what a lot of movies get wrong now? They're too fucking long. Like they're too self-indulgent. They add like five or six scenes that don't need to be in there. An hour and a half is a good time for most movies. They don't need to be three hours.
Grizz (1:11:25)
Mm-hmm. Yep. For now, yep.
And,
and everything about Mike is a thing. There's no, again, there's no waste of time in it. All the jokes fucking hit. They never overstayed their welcome. Like every, and he just moves on and it moves on and like it's, the thing is like, they, they set up the jokes and do the jokes and don't even like establish that their jokes is just part of the movie. Like the whole thing, when he comes in, when he like misses the suit and everything, and he comes in that fucking thing and the judge is like, are you, he's like,
Ice Bear (1:11:56)
Yeah.
Grizz (1:12:03)
what do want me to do? And then it just continues. And it's like, it's just still funny from that scene to the next scene. And you're still laughing about that part. But like, it's going on to the next thing. So like, you're still laughing about the prior scene and the next one starts like, it's so good.
Ice Bear (1:12:14)
Yep.
Yeah. Yeah.
Grizz (1:12:22)
Perfect fucking movie.
Ice Bear (1:12:23)
The other thing about that type of film was it had a relaxing energy. felt like you were it was true escapism. That's where I'll put it. Because it wasn't you're not going to think about this and be like, I changed my life. It was just purely it's a distraction and it knew it. was unapologetically just here's 90 minutes of you're going to chuckle.
Grizz (1:12:39)
Mm-hmm.
Ice Bear (1:12:53)
You're going to have a good time. That's it. That's the end of it.
Grizz (1:12:57)
Yeah.
You know, completely opposite end of the spectrum, but you know, movies still stands a test of time that I love the tiger like to and I didn't expect her like what she liked. And then now I can make references and then she's like, get some tombstone.
Ice Bear (1:13:16)
interesting. You know, a lot of Westerns, they really do. ⁓
Grizz (1:13:21)
Yeah.
But Val Kilmer as Doc Holliday, like the fact that he didn't win a Grammy for that shit is fucking criminal. He just did everything. All the things. I don't know what the fuck they're called. What's the movie Grammys? An Oscar. There you go. I knew the same shit. They look the same. I knew you were going to correct me. So I figured I'd just say it and it would have come out naturally. But yeah, so like, yeah.
Ice Bear (1:13:26)
Yeah.
Grammy?
Ha ha ha!
That's some movie crap.
Grizz (1:13:50)
I that I knew there was I knew they were different. I knew you're gonna know what I meant when I said it. So like, the fact that he went to movie Grammy is fucking
Ice Bear (1:14:01)
What's the straight people Tony? Okay, go ahead.
Grizz (1:14:06)
I have one of those is to be fucking hilarious, but I will say it after we end the episode. ⁓ yeah, Doc Holliday, about Kilmer as Doc Holliday was like the perfect character, like the acting and everything. Fucking phenomenal. And again, I watched it. I watched it a million times when I was a little kid.
I watched it when was a teenager. I watched it now. I watched it with the tiger like 90, like a year ago. And it holds up just as well as it does a phone for absolutely phenomenal movie. Cause the thing is like, I know tiger's not going to type for Westerns. I do like a lot of Westerns, but it's one of those movies, especially for back then, then it's a Western, but the pacing is so much more of a modern movie at the time that like, it's still enticing for people that don't give a fuck about the time period. You know what I mean?
Ice Bear (1:14:57)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. All right.
Grizz (1:15:03)
It's
a perfect movie.
Ice Bear (1:15:06)
Give me your top three Westerns all time go.
Grizz (1:15:09)
Oh, fuck. That's good. So one that I, let me pull up this name. The one that I recently watched in this, it's not, it's probably not a top three. But I really, really, really enjoyed it. And I can't believe I skipped it. And it kind of bothers me that I did. What the fuck's the name? Let see if I can Google it real quick.
see if it pops up. ⁓ It's a newer Western say last 15 years or so. ⁓ It's basically ⁓ no, no, no, that's actually that's a good movie. Now it's, ⁓ it's about Billy the Kid, but it's like a it's like a alternate reality where like he lives.
Ice Bear (1:15:39)
Who's in it? Let me try and guess.
310 to Yuma.
⁓ I don't think I know this one.
Grizz (1:16:03)
It's actually really, it's a really good fucking movie. Let's see if I can find it. God damn it.
Ice Bear (1:16:11)
All right, well, while you're looking,
let me rapid fire some. ⁓ Ron's Metal Unforgiven.
Grizz (1:16:14)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unforgiven, would say, ⁓ that's definitely up there. One that's I wouldn't put it as a Western per se, but I it falls in the like, it falls in that vein that I can, if anybody says sucks, I would agree with it. Great everything but like one that I've always liked that that the Punisher kind of paid homage to was El Mariachi.
Ice Bear (1:16:47)
No, that's great movie.
Grizz (1:16:50)
All right. right. So like, would you as definitely not a Western, but like, you know what I mean? Like I would put it in that kind of vein. I would put one. What's the
What's that one Clint Eastwood movie where it's like, ⁓
Ice Bear (1:17:08)
Fistful of dollars. Man with no name. A few dollars more.
Grizz (1:17:12)
Yeah, they go for a few for a few dollars more
Ice Bear (1:17:15)
That would be my number two.
Grizz (1:17:19)
few dollars more is up there, for sure. I would put that one. ⁓
Ice Bear (1:17:24)
The
whole A Man With No Name trilogy is fantastic.
Grizz (1:17:26)
Yeah. I would probably put on if I can't pick tombstone, I would probably put unforgiven as cause cause I get a lot of those, a lot of the Clint Eastwood ones, like I tie them all together. Is it unforgiven where he goes into the very end and he just fucking just decimates the fucking building of all the people.
Ice Bear (1:17:50)
I'm unforgiven is the one where like the, the, the, the start of it is the, they're in the brothel. Then the lady gets essayed and, and that that's the whole catalyst for the whole thing. It's Morgan Freeman and Clint Eastwood.
Grizz (1:18:02)
Yeah.
Yep. With the movie where he just goes into the building and just like slowly just fucking kills everybody. Right. It's unforgiven. Right. Yes. I would say unforgiven is probably like, it's definitely it's top three for sure.
Ice Bear (1:18:21)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (1:18:27)
I I'm another one. I remember unforgiven is definitely up there. $3 more.
Ice Bear (1:18:49)
So I don't know why, but I have always liked the original TruGrid, like the John Wayne one.
Grizz (1:18:49)
can't think.
Okay, it's you grits great. I do like a lot of like as you watch back old John Wayne movies for super hokey, but sure grit was good Even though what was the last of remake man was like 2010 or like 2016 or some shit. It was like yeah, right? Yeah, it was it was like not that long ago. It was good, too Both of them were really good. Oh Shit, you know, it's when I really liked it. I was younger. It was a good bad in the ugly the clincher movie. That was a good one
Ice Bear (1:19:08)
2010.
That was good. Yeah, that wasn't was fine.
yeah, that's fantastic.
Grizz (1:19:23)
Again, one of those movies that don't fall into like, they're not Western tribe, but like, kind of have that vibe was No Country for Old Men. It's more of a serial killer movie, but like, but like it has that vibe, you know what I mean?
Ice Bear (1:19:33)
yes. Dude,
Javier Bardem is fantastic. He was great in that he was he was probably the best Bond villain I can think of.
Grizz (1:19:47)
Yeah, like, fantastic. But like, ⁓ like, again, not I not a traditional Western by any means, but like, it kind of has the vibe of like Westerns. Yeah, I would ⁓
Ice Bear (1:19:55)
It has it has that vibe. Yeah. And just the
the air gun like that thing they kill cows with great weapon.
Grizz (1:20:01)
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. So I was like, I'm over. He was a great fucking serial killer. Like in like, yeah.
Ice Bear (1:20:06)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, ⁓ totally believable. I think Javier
Berdine probably has killed people.
Grizz (1:20:16)
It looks like it to be honest like how
easy like because he captures like because he it's not psychotic by any means like he makes rational sense to himself completely and That's what makes him so great Like he's not a villain he's a villain, but he's like in himself thing like he's not acting like a villain
Ice Bear (1:20:39)
You know, I just thought of another one. And I don't like that I like it because the fan base is generally fairly insufferable. But Django is a good movie, man.
Grizz (1:20:54)
So Django, you know what the funny thing is? I've never watched it, but I know a lot of because of the memes. And the memes are great. They're But like
Ice Bear (1:21:00)
Mm-hmm.
It's
a good movie.
Grizz (1:21:05)
I am genuinely not a Tarantino
Ice Bear (1:21:10)
He
he's That's why I that's the other reason I don't want to like it because I don't like him He gives me he gives me weird vibes. He creeps me out and I feel like he's probably Right up there on the Epstein list like he gives me that kind of energy but
Grizz (1:21:18)
I-
Yeah, I don't like
Quentin Tarantino, but I also don't like the pretentiousness of all of like Tarantino stuff. But even at that, when you think of Tarantino, like I just think of what's that one movie with the girl with the gun leg and then like all the other stuff. you know what I mean? Like I think of Tarantino, I think of that and like,
Ice Bear (1:21:44)
Yeah, That's the
one that's like half him and half Rodriguez, right?
Grizz (1:21:50)
Yeah. And it's like three movies, like three short films, whatever. Yeah. So like, when I think Tarantino, think that, you know, and like, I think that kind of energy, I'm just, I'm genuinely not a Tarantino. granted, yes, Pulp Fiction is an amazing movie, or whatever. But like, outside of like Pulp Fiction, I don't know another Tarantino movie that I absolutely love.
Ice Bear (1:21:52)
Yeah. Yeah.
Reservoir Dogs is mid. Jackie Brown is okay. Kill Bill one and two are mid.
Grizz (1:22:15)
Resi Yes, I would say and
I'm not a huge fan of kill bill. I take out go go. Now, cable sucks. Like take out go go. It's whatever. ⁓ Reservoir Dogs is great. But so many animes did it better. Like you know,
Ice Bear (1:22:25)
Yeah.
Okay,
so speaking you know who you know that what gives the exact same energy Tarantino Tarantino movies and any of the mono guitar is with their fucking third like half second wall of text bullshit. And they're like, we're we're artsy.
Grizz (1:22:37)
Mungo straight dogs.
Yeah, okay, okay, here's yeah So
see here's the thing I absolutely love mono guitar a but but but but I I know exactly what you mean though I I know exactly what you mean though. I can give you that cuz like cuz definitely I don't know the main character. I could definitely see him as a Terrence, you know, like
Ice Bear (1:22:55)
I know you do, that's why I said it, because I want to piss you off.
It's the same, it's the same vibe.
it.
Grizz (1:23:13)
like, I could totally see it.
Ice Bear (1:23:16)
Hope you're ready to read a play dough quote in a millisecond. You better fucking pause it you jump.
Grizz (1:23:22)
The thing is that like someone could hardly does that but Tarantino like does that shittily where like he doesn't even do that
Ice Bear (1:23:29)
Yes, but like, like that's the he wants to be like, I'm, I'm smarter. You don't understand this. Like that's, that's the Tarantino thing.
Grizz (1:23:31)
But the energy.
He's like, he's
a better, he's like a shock value action drama. ⁓
Ice Bear (1:23:45)
Yes, absolutely, 100 % yes.
Grizz (1:23:49)
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a did shout did he did the in my shop on like die or something? Because it wasn't like because like, I remember watching all the the split trilogy, the chatter and the broken whatever the fuck things with like with the tiger. Like all great like I liked every single one of them. But no, so so the third one wasn't good. Is ⁓
Ice Bear (1:24:08)
what a wild turn that was.
The third one is dog shit. What are you talking about? Stop.
No, it wasn't
okay. It was terrible.
Grizz (1:24:26)
So,
so here's the thing. So here's where I would put it. when in comparison to the first two, yeah, it was dog shit. I'll give you, I'll give you that. But if the third one set actually set the plot line, like it said, and it was going to open this whole like thing of others, of other things. And then I was like, okay, fine, cool. Like I'll take it as a, I'll take it as the baseline to do like all this weird shit. Like I'm totally down.
But the fact that it never did that, I'm like, fuck this movie. This is a big ass waste of fucking time and waste of actors. if it did and it set the time for like, and you had the thing where they were going to find the other people that kind of like, you know what I mean? Then I'm like, okay, cool.
Ice Bear (1:25:01)
it sure if
If that is the start of the Shammalama-verse, then sure. Then I'm on board.
Grizz (1:25:15)
Exactly. Yeah.
Yeah, so I was helpful for that. But then I'm like, brother, this movie came out how long ago? Where's the next one? And it's not here. So because of that, I'm like, fuck this movie. Because compared to the other two, it sucks. I will I will give it that 1000%.
Ice Bear (1:25:30)
What's the first one with Bruce Willis? What's that one called? Unbreakable? Is that it? Split is the second one. Split is the one with James McAvoy. Because that's my favorite. Because the other thing is when we watched that, the Seal and I, I had no idea that was related to it at all. I just thought it was a good movie that had and then at the end, know, Bruce Willis is in the bar or the not the bar, the diner.
Grizz (1:25:35)
Is it on break? Was it split or shatter?
Yeah, think Split's the best.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Ice Bear (1:25:58)
And you find out they're connected. And I was like, holy shit.
But that movie was phenomenal. that, like McAvoy is off the charts. Great. That whole, like all his characters are very believable. It was, was a fun, like I was kind of guessing most of the way, which rarely happens for me. So that was, I loved it.
Grizz (1:26:05)
Yeah, split was amazing. Absolutely amazing.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, fantastic movie
Ice Bear (1:26:25)
Well, shit.
What you got?
Grizz (1:26:35)
got another fucking c-minus to be honest. These Sasquatches suck. I'm just telling you, here's one thing. Washington, your Sasquatches are dog shit compared to Oklahoma Sasquatches. That's all I'm saying. You want a Sasquatch? Go to Gasquatch in Oklahoma. You'll see a Sasquatch.
Ice Bear (1:26:51)
The
Pac-Northwest yetis are failing you.
Grizz (1:26:55)
These no-lie, the muffa here full of lies. Ain't nothing imperial or juicy about these squatches. C- for both.
Ice Bear (1:27:03)
Our little boy, our little lad, the golden carolus of Christmas, ⁓ this did not live up to its S-tier predecessor. But it was not awful. This is another C +, so I'm a double C +, today.
Grizz (1:27:21)
Double C minus. It a sad time. right. It was a mid-ass beer week. How are we going lighten this up? How are we going lighten this up? End with a little li-v- thing.
Ice Bear (1:27:25)
mid all around.
Mm.
⁓ Hold on, on, hold on. I'm onto something. Let me cook. Give me a minute. Give me a minute. Beer's bad. Drink's sad. Pacers and Sevens.
Grizz (1:27:58)
One thing I don't know. I don't know
why. It doesn't even matter how hard you try. Keep that in mind when I design these beers.
⁓ no, okay, so we got another I can't I can't make a Linkin Park reference All we know beer suck this week ⁓
Ice Bear (1:28:12)
you
Grizz (1:28:23)
What we got? We got, we got to end it with the bang.
no, they hit the second tower.
