Ice Bear (00:34)
of was absolutely majestic.
Grizz (00:34)
Those...
That felt snappy. Absolutely snappy.
Ice Bear (00:39)
felt a little sultry.
That felt a little lewd.
So speaking of snappy and spicy and people spanking one another, let me tell you, my blue jays put a fucking beat down on Colorado this week. Did you happen to catch that in your neck of the woods? Did that make the news?
Grizz (01:05)
I only saw it on a, I have them Google reminders on Bluejay stuff. Cause I looked up a couple of times, I looked up the J's when they were like neck and neck with the Rangers. So now I always get J, J data.
Ice Bear (01:10)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah,
so for our dear listeners that aren't in the loop, they had a series with the Rockies earlier this week. They won 15 to 1, 10 to 4, and then they were like, you know what, let's do the third one, 20 to fucking 1. So it was a rough outing for the old.
Grizz (01:34)
God, God, Dale.
That's why you busted out the skull because they were just skull crushing people.
Ice Bear (01:44)
They were just absolutely skull fucking people. were Ed Norton in American history, axing them.
Grizz (01:53)
Do you remember that meme that I sent you? It was like that Australian breakdancer doing the this and then they were like it was the American history X.
Ice Bear (01:54)
There's a dated reference.
That was the thing about the break dancing in the Olympics that was so terrible. Other than of course the dancing was the fact that Red Bull does their like dance tour that gets a lot of play on TikTok now. And the worst person in that tour would have won the gold medal. my God. Some of the people are so absurdly talented, especially like the people that can do like ticking and like breaking. my God. Phenomenal.
Grizz (02:26)
It's better than everybody. Yeah.
Jabbawockeys.
Ice Bear (02:40)
Yes.
love
the jet. Whatever happened to ABDC? What a show.
Grizz (02:47)
⁓ Especially like so during around when that show was out I was like in my Screw everything mainstream era and even then I was like I I go and secretly turn it on and I'm it's a damn good show
Ice Bear (03:03)
Yeah, well,
the funniest part about it was they had that like, C-list celebrity panel of judges. It was the one dude from NSYNC that was giving like the poignant clerical advice to them. Like, no, you want to do a 93 degree angle on that particular little knee move. And had a little mama that's like, constantly smacking her lips. Who's the third guy? Was it Neo? I feel like it might have been Neo.
Grizz (03:20)
Mm.
You
Did Neil even dance?
Ice Bear (03:35)
How dare you? Neo was quite the dancer.
Grizz (03:39)
To be fair, I've never actually seen Neo outside of like a random bit of music video.
Ice Bear (03:40)
Yeah, that's fair.
Maybe it wasn't. I don't know. Anyway, what a show. So what are you drinking over there, fella?
Grizz (03:55)
So I'm starting my mind with an appetizer. It's very rare we have appetizers, but I think this one deserves it. Because these beers, these offerings are so great for the big 2-0 that...
Ice Bear (04:01)
as one does.
Grizz (04:13)
world's not ready for just to just just them right right off the bat so i am going with an old faithful buddy right here this is
Ice Bear (04:21)
Look at that voodoo ranger.
Grizz (04:24)
It's a Juice Force, it's a 9.5. It's a very citrusy, hazy boy, hazy imperial.
Ice Bear (04:31)
Well, I didn't realize we were going to announce to the world my micro penis so fast, because over here I don't have a 9.5. I have a 4.8, but you'll see why I like this very shortly. Here's the description. And some cans are very poetic, you know, they like to get into it, give you a nice long soliloquy and backstory and... This one is... This one here.
Grizz (04:55)
And that's girth.
Ice Bear (05:01)
is a mango wheat ale. And that's all we know about it. This is Kerplunk.
Grizz (05:04)
interesting.
That is actually really cool. That mango, that mango looks like a character from like, it belongs in Rocko's Modern Life.
Ice Bear (05:19)
my god, it does fit that art style well, doesn't it? Yes, it does. Rocco's Modern Life was amazing. I still to this day, if I'm walking around work and it's kind of dull or I'm just zoning out or I'm bored, I go, I'm a wild pig. And very few people know what it's from. But every now and again, I catch someone, like, ⁓ you're one of my ilk.
Grizz (05:20)
Right? Yeah, I love that. That's beautiful.
you
I think one of the best.
Here's funny because if it's not Rocko's Modern Life I'm gonna it's gonna be funny But if it's not that one I have for sure a Rocko's Modern Life episode that I really like but there was an episode it was like this cactus bar where they get the cactus juice and they like with the faucet and they goes and then they like opens it up for like the desert people and then people start getting drunk and crazy and he Creates this crazy like cactus bar
Ice Bear (06:12)
That seems like it would be a Rocko's Modern Life thing. I don't remember that one.
Grizz (06:18)
It's an episode I've probably only seen it once, maybe twice in my childhood, but I remember it.
Ice Bear (06:25)
I mean,
that seems like it would be par for that course. The only other thing it might be is like...
Real monsters or something. Ren and Stimpy.
Grizz (06:36)
Definitely definitely not that but it's yeah definitely that era.
Renistin B was always one where like I felt like I shouldn't be watching it but I loved it.
Ice Bear (06:44)
We shouldn't have been.
We clearly should not have been. That was an adult program. Going back, there was a couple episodes where it's like very, very lewd.
Grizz (06:49)
yeah.
yeah, even just like, just the butt stuff.
Ice Bear (07:02)
The way they draw butts is very weird. But the one I'm thinking of, was either Rand or Stimpy, one of them had like a two by four strapped on a la a strap on and they were sawing it on the other one's butt and like the wood shavings were flying everywhere. I'm like, no, I mean, hilarious, but not for a five year old. What were they showing us? Very weird.
Grizz (07:25)
Yeah.
Yeah, my my we would have to watch it in secret because my aunt would find out it would be a whole thing. She's also the one but like didn't let us watch South Park and stuff either. So
Ice Bear (07:35)
It's really interesting that in my house, the things that were labeled as the worst were just cursing. So South Park was one of the ones that was a no-no.
Grizz (07:49)
Yeah, my aunt was anything like lewd, cursing, anything like that. I remember being a wee youngin, we'd always get horror movies from this like, not even Blockbuster. We'd get this one, it was called Pop and Go. And the characters on there were like anapromorphic popcorn things, so they kinda looked like nerds, like the little nerd things.
Ice Bear (08:07)
⁓
That's fun. That's very fun.
Grizz (08:15)
The thing
is they had great like B movies and we would go there because you can get more for less obviously and also they had ⁓ the Galaga the Galaza game the arcade one the good one and Then ⁓ and then miss pack and the fast one So my aunt was like, let's go cuz she fucking love this pac-man and then my cousin and my uncle Loved the gala zone one, right? Should we go? Watch a bunch of horror movies. It great
Ice Bear (08:31)
Nice.
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (08:42)
We rented Pumpkinhead, like two or three, and there's great franchise. The thing is though, is that, know, the nudity, right? And I remember the first time we watched it, my aunt walks in exactly when there's like the nudity scene. It's the entire night, wasn't, but the time she did was then.
Ice Bear (08:45)
⁓
Mm-hmm.
Of course.
Grizz (09:03)
got we got bitched out because we were perverts apparently was our first time watching this movie we didn't know there's all this stuff she takes out the movie and then like it was a whole was a whole bunch
Ice Bear (09:14)
So speaking of the days of VHS, I would be willing to bet if you travel to my parents' home, where a lot of my VHS collection remains to this day, and you found a copy of White Men Can't Jump, I bet it's rewound not quite to the beginning, but somewhere in the middle. And I bet you're gonna know why Rosie Perez is in the movie in short order. ⁓
Grizz (09:34)
Ha ha ha!
Ice Bear (09:43)
Just saying.
pre-interweb. What a time to be alive.
Grizz (09:51)
You know what mine was that? The another that you bring up VHS? Jack Frost.
Not the kids movie, but the horror movie.
Ice Bear (10:04)
I don't know if I've seen it. I mean, I guess, but I don't think I've seen the horror movie version of it.
Grizz (10:06)
It's a killer snowman. Yeah.
Anyways, like
the horror movie bombshell girl in there is like it's Shannon Elizabeth
Ice Bear (10:17)
yep.
Grizz (10:19)
to like in this ⁓ one of our first movies person then so all cup gris
Ice Bear (10:30)
Fair. Very fair.
Grizz (10:33)
I would say that was probably the equivalent of that.
Ice Bear (10:37)
This is a quince. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
Grizz (10:41)
We never watched
the remake of My Man Can't Jump either.
Ice Bear (10:44)
yeah, we were supposed to.
totally forgot. Wait, hold on. I can't remember. Isn't it an Asian kid or something?
Grizz (10:51)
Is it?
Ice Bear (10:53)
I feel like the remake of... ⁓ no. No, we gotta stop doing this. We gotta stop researching mid-episode.
Grizz (10:57)
Did
they take back like Kraut again?
Ice Bear (11:04)
Maybe. Speaking of.
Grizz (11:05)
Instead of
Wesley Snipes is an Asian dude.
Ice Bear (11:09)
Speaking of Karate Kid, the new one's actually pretty good. No, no, the newest one came out like this year. It's got Jackie Chan. It's got... ⁓
Grizz (11:13)
The Jaden one?
really?
I Jackie Chan was in it though, Jayden one. He's Mr. Miyagi, isn't he?
Ice Bear (11:27)
Is he? I don't know. Anyway, this is definitely newer because James Smith is not in it. It's got the original ⁓ karate kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever his name. Yes, that guy. yeah. And then the new main character, the protagonist is just some kid that is from China, winds up in New York because, I don't know, some bizarre reason and he fights in like the all.
Grizz (11:28)
I thought.
Hmm.
Rocky, Machiano, whatever, right? Yeah.
My cousin Vinnie.
Ice Bear (11:57)
all-New York borough versus borough tournament but it's pretty good it's a silly fun movie and it's short too which is like if you're gonna do something like that where it's like it's not life-changing and the story's not particularly impactful make it short do an 80-minute movie not everything needs to be three hours
Grizz (12:02)
Good.
Yeah, the 80 to 90 minute movie is perfect for those little randoms.
Ice Bear (12:21)
And I feel like the industry has totally forgotten that that's a thing. Cause sometimes you just want a shut your brain off nonsense, like movie and you never think about it again. You just know you had a good time.
Grizz (12:36)
Very, very true.
Ice Bear (12:37)
Not everything needs to be clockwork orange.
Grizz (12:43)
Can you imagine them trying to do clockwork orange now?
Ice Bear (12:45)
Holy fuck, man,
Grizz (12:48)
Like not
only just because of like the whole like singing in the rain scene and all that stuff. Not even just because of that. Not even because of that, but like just how off it is and how random it is and how like, you know what I mean?
Ice Bear (12:56)
I about that.
What do you think Stanley Kubrick would have tried to get away with, with modern equipment?
Grizz (13:09)
Hard R.
Ice Bear (13:11)
Yeah.
He's not Tarantino. I think he would...
Grizz (13:17)
Detainee
knows wild not only like that even the fact that you put like the whole Selma Hyacin and it's like yourself drinking liquor off drinking tequila off of her toes Like you know what I mean? Like that was that was intentional intentional
Ice Bear (13:28)
off the toes.
Yeah, for sure. The first time I saw that, because if memory serves, it doesn't become a horror movie till like midway, correct? Yeah. And then you're like, just vampires everywhere. It's out of nowhere. I was not prepared for that. I don't know what I was expecting, but I wasn't ready for that.
Grizz (13:44)
Way later, yeah.
Yeah.
I-
The thing is, even the vampires and cool and everything, but just because of that and then specifically that scene and everything, I don't know. guess I could also I was younger, so maybe uncomfortable. I don't like it. And then by the time it switches, like, fuck this movie. Like, hated it growing up. So I never liked it. And I watched it again later and I'm like, I guess it's a little better than I thought. I'm still like not a huge fan of the movie.
Ice Bear (14:11)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So I know you're doing an old reliable. Kirk Plunk here, or dear?
Rocko's Modern Life Mango, this is N.
Grizz (14:36)
Rocco's Modern Mango.
Ice Bear (14:43)
A minus, very pleased to start.
Grizz (14:45)
Damn, that is nice.
Ice Bear (14:48)
So sorry, go ahead.
Grizz (14:51)
Ha.
Have you had old reliable?
Ice Bear (14:56)
I have only ever had the original Voodoo Ranger.
Grizz (15:02)
So when we do have a gorilla episode, a barilla episode if you will.
Ice Bear (15:10)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (15:13)
If we do have that, we will have a .5 episode of just splitting voodoo rangers.
Ice Bear (15:22)
Voodoos.
I love it. I'm fully on board. Fully on board.
Grizz (15:25)
I for for being like
a ⁓ commercial brand. ⁓
Ice Bear (15:33)
Just on point.
Grizz (15:34)
I think it's probably the best. I can in general, not the Geese Force one or the Imperial, like the ones that I like, but just as all the side ones, think as a whole, its catalog is the best for like an. Yep.
Ice Bear (15:37)
Very nice.
Yeah.
Who is the brewery? Is it New Belgium? Is that who is
it? Yeah, I feel like you'll appreciate this because you generally have your little cooler vessel thing that keeps things cold for you. I'm often jealous of that because I don't want to walk to the fridge. I like to stay right here, be present with you so I can see you drink your squirt, you fucking maniac.
Grizz (16:15)
Zero sugar squirt.
Ice Bear (16:18)
I today had the help of frozen edamame to keep number two cold.
Grizz (16:23)
you
beautiful. So while you do that I'm gonna be unprepared and then go grab my shirt from the freezer. ⁓
Ice Bear (16:30)
So.
All right. Well, okay. Yeah. I will
wait till you return and I, I give me a prompt. Give me something.
Grizz (16:39)
So.
Given ol' Grizz being a traveling bear, how about you give us a tale of yore of when ol' Ice Papa was stomping around the grounds of ol' Washington State.
Ice Bear (16:58)
Okay, I can do that. I can do that indeed.
Alright, here is my recommendation for those going to the pack northwest. If you have a pupper and you enjoy the great outdoors, as many of us often do, go to Stillacoon Dog Park. It is an off-leash dog park. It is lovely. Often the weather is delightful. Often it's not, but it's lovely to see the pups run around.
Grizz (17:25)
.
Ice Bear (17:28)
and ⁓ one of my core memories from that is my pitbull nintendo made a friend with a chihuahua and that chihuahua humped the shit out of him even though he was a fourth of his size
Grizz (17:36)
Great name.
That is not how I thought that was gonna end.
Ice Bear (17:48)
I recommended my favorite dog park in your general neck of the woods. Yeah, Nintendo got violently assaulted by Chihuahua.
Grizz (17:50)
Yeah.
Ice Bear (17:58)
And my roommate at the time, had a video of it and he turned it into like a three second clip because it was just Nintendo. he, so he was a pit bull, but he had really big, almost corgi-esque ears that like would, they would flop, but then they would point up like full on like Yoda style. And so like the minute the little dog like latched onto his leg, was just like pure shock and awe. So.
Grizz (18:21)
Ha ha!
know,
one of the things here, being in Seattle and seeing all the dogs, the people, like the anti-social people with their dogs, I'm like...
Ice Bear (18:32)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, it is.
Grizz (18:39)
One,
I missed the lingus, but two,
Ice Bear (18:46)
get one. It's a it's a you you live in such a phenomenal area for dogs. There's so many dog parks. And the one I was just telling the people about is off leash. And like, if I come out there, it's not far from you. And it's huge. It's probably, I don't know, 15 acres. And it's separated like large and small dogs. So you just you go in there on leash, and then they're just free. And so what Lance and I would do is like we'd walk around and
Grizz (19:03)
Damn.
Ice Bear (19:15)
Nintendo and Lilo would just run around off leash and you know, they'd be like 20 feet from us and then we'd be like, Hey, we're leaving you and they'd be like, what? And they'd scamper over and they'd get close and then they'd just do their thing. It's a great time.
Grizz (19:27)
Yeah, I'm thinking about it. I've been really like, because I'm like, you know, I like Shepherds. I've been seeing a lot of Shepherds, like German Shepherds, or Shetland Shepherds,
Ice Bear (19:38)
There's a lot of shepherds. There's a lot of shepherds. The seal would
be fucking thrilled. She loves ship ships.
Grizz (19:45)
Yeah, so I'm like every time I see what I'm like, because there's a guy that walks his dog like around the time that I'm walking to work. so I probably see him three times out of the week. Last week I saw him three times. I've seen him twice this week and I'm pretty sure I'm gonna see him tomorrow. ⁓ And it has this fucking beautiful Australian shepherd and I'm like.
Ice Bear (19:59)
Mm.
You should look up. I don't know if this guy still is doing it, but there was a breeder in Bellingham, which is not terribly far from here, that did King Shepherds. And they were fucking like giant German shepherds, just fucking huge. They're super cool. And they're normally jet black. They, so they don't have the, the sable coloring. They're just jet black German shepherds and they're huge. You should look up. Just look at...
Grizz (20:24)
Hmm.
Ooh.
I'll definitely, I'll definitely. I thought you were going to say
there was that one. I'll look that up for sure. Cause I thought you were going to say there's that one breeder in like, I think it's Florida, maybe Georgia. I'm pretty sure it's Florida though, but it's like this weird. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They kind of like doofy, but they look super cool though. Yeah. Yeah. I saw one and I was like, dude, he looks a little doofy, but he looks so fucking cool. Like.
Ice Bear (20:38)
Bellingham, King Shepherds, yeah.
Blue bays? This CEO really wants, and I do too, like it's not just her, like those are beautiful fucking dogs. yeah, yeah, the blue
bays are Florida, yeah.
Grizz (21:04)
is Florida, yeah. So I thought you were going to say that because I remember I got super obsessed for a little bit. Are you ready for it?
Ice Bear (21:11)
So let me tell you,
because after that first giddy up, I'm excited. I now have another wheat, this time a little more to go off of and tell you. This is brewed with ninja-like precision. This Hawaii inspired wheat bursts with bold, juicy pineapple and thirst quenching fruity finish equipped for anything you throw at it.
Grizz (21:26)
Ooh. Ooh.
Ice Bear (21:37)
This sneakily delicious ale will transport you directly to the tropics handcrafted by Bracebridge at Muskoka Brewery. is Pineapple Ninja Weed Ale.
Grizz (21:50)
I love it. love the Fruit Ninja pineapple slice. You know, one thing I was thinking when I was walking back, by getting my beers was...
Ice Bear (21:52)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (22:05)
I like how this episode kind of just turned into a movie episode because we're just talking about movies. And I was like, you know what? It's a good color for wheat. I was like, you know what? The funny thing is is that you and I as a bears, we have similar tastes in a lot of things.
Ice Bear (22:10)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
It smells very pineapple-y.
We
sure do.
Grizz (22:29)
I think I like somebody a little more than you do. And I'm not even the biggest fan of the person, but it's nostalgic and I like it. But like...
We recently watched Abigail More 2 because it just came out. It's pretty great. You know, it was funny.
Ice Bear (22:51)
Wait, what to? happy Gilmore.
Grizz (22:52)
Happy Give... It was
such a good movie. It was one I of didn't want to talk about last episode because it was a great movie because it was self-aware.
Ice Bear (23:04)
That really helps. Comedies that are self-aware, because it makes any joke that normally wouldn't land effective, right?
Grizz (23:13)
It makes it very effective, And so the biggest thing, it's like, that was great. All the callbacks were great. The fact that they modernized it was kind of here and there. the biggest thing, though, is like,
Even though some of the parts like where they kind of modernize is like a little like eh. But the fact that it was self aware it it really like made them more palatable so it's great. But the best thing about the movie. Go.
Ice Bear (23:54)
⁓
How did you feel about the drives that hit the other balls and exploded them into like vapor?
Grizz (24:05)
It's was because again, like because you have to go in the back that like.
It's, ⁓
clapstick right so like it's there you guys just trying to think of the word so like it's funny like the scene where what's the one dude from freaking is it Andre that like when they were like the trio and he was like trying to get his groove back after everything ⁓ when it was like the three randoms and then when he starts drinking again mid thing he's like yeah hilarious but the best thing though is that you get a glimpse of the past
Ice Bear (24:22)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (24:50)
best part.
is chubs.
Ice Bear (24:56)
⁓ I didn't see this. I didn't know this was a segue. Well done. That caught me very off guard.
Grizz (25:05)
This chubs.
and the one on crocodile the one on gator chubs and the one on gator
Ice Bear (25:09)
⁓
The Gator.
Well done.
Grizz (25:17)
This here is from, can you tell by the hour who this is from?
Ice Bear (25:24)
Is this Martin House? Yeah, of course it is.
Grizz (25:31)
this Martin
house right here. It is a hazy, but 10 % made by Texans for Texans. Look at this. Look at this little like best friends, coffee mug. It's so good. It's, it's just means beautiful. Look at that. His broken hand is beautiful. This right here.
Ice Bear (25:47)
That's so elegant. I love it.
you
Grizz (25:59)
is gold jacket, green jacket.
Ice Bear (26:02)
That's really good. Here I thought you were just really waxing poetic about the movie. I did not think that was a setup. That caught me totally off guard. Well done. Well done, sir.
Grizz (26:19)
I bought this, I mean obviously it's in Texas, I bought it when I was still in Texas. So I've been holding onto this for so long.
Ice Bear (26:28)
just waiting, waiting for the chance.
Grizz (26:33)
my God, this color.
Ice Bear (26:35)
Oh, yeah, that looks quite delicious. I like the vessel. That's fun. How many times do you get to fill that out of a tall boy?
Grizz (26:46)
We'll find out because I did like three times with this little guy right here. We'll see on this one.
Ice Bear (26:53)
⁓ How did you like the actual ⁓ inclusion of golfers like DeChambeau and
Grizz (27:02)
It was actually really good. Uh, I totally didn't expect it. I don't know. You know what mean? What's funny is that there's just, I'm, I mean, it's probably smart, right? Cause like happy Gilmore is an iconic movie. Even I know plenty of people that don't like Adam Sandler, but like happy Gilmore. So to make a happy Gilmore to what? Like two decades later is like, I really
Ice Bear (27:06)
Neither did I.
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
Grizz (27:32)
Didn't want to watch the movie because like you're gonna fuck up one of my favorite movies for my kid It's like making child Billy Madison, too. I don't want to see that shit. You know what I mean?
Ice Bear (27:36)
Mm-hmm.
Can you imagine if they're like medium Nicky?
Grizz (27:47)
Little Nicky's also, I think Billy Madison, Little Nicky, and Happy Gilmore Poly Top 3.
Ice Bear (27:56)
smaller aged daddy.
Grizz (27:59)
⁓
They can just call it bigger daddy and there's like he's gonna he's gonna be a grandfather because Frankenstein has kids
Ice Bear (28:09)
yeah, yeah, big grandpa.
Grizz (28:13)
Yeah, big grandpa or bigger daddy, both work.
Ice Bear (28:15)
Big,
big, big pappy. Big pappy.
Grizz (28:20)
But like, so I was really worried about watching Happy Gilmore 2. I was like, I don't see how you can do it. So like the fact that there was so much callbacks, I think is like the route they had to go. I don't see any other way of like paying homage to the movie of, know, than that, especially adding like all the modern stuff.
Ice Bear (28:25)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (28:42)
But the fact that they added all these people, actual golfers, ⁓ the one prank dude, fucking Eminem. Yeah.
Ice Bear (28:52)
That was great and I was not ready for that. That
was so out of nowhere.
Grizz (28:57)
And then there was like, cause he did do like, it like it was a lose yourself for a kid. Like it was good.
Ice Bear (29:07)
Yeah. you know, I'm really curious to know if he wrote, because he, he either totally wrote it or co-wrote it. I would be curious to know if he did that before or after his standup comedy tour.
Grizz (29:28)
Oh, I forgot he did that because he even did a comedy special on Netflix too, right? I haven't watched it though, but like...
Ice Bear (29:33)
Right, because
I feel like with comics, if you're doing a tour or like, you know, constantly writing and like working on your material, it would be like working out, right? You're just like flexing a comedy muscle effectively. So if you come off a tour and then you write your movie, you probably have a better sense of timing and what hits and when to call back and when to do something fresh, that kind of thing.
Grizz (30:04)
Yeah, that's very true. Because I forget that he used to do like stand up stuff here and there. Yeah, I totally forget about that. Because like, he's been a movie guy for how long now?
Ice Bear (30:09)
Right. Yeah.
I mean, a long time, which it's interesting how many people go that route versus some people just want to do stand-up forever.
Grizz (30:26)
Yeah, and what was always crazy to me is that you have somebody that like was a great and then just washed out
Ice Bear (30:33)
Mmm.
Grizz (30:34)
Cause you think, so you think of like, so like Adam Sandler was did stand up stuff. I don't really know any of it to be honest. So I don't know if it's very forgettable, but I get to me it is because I don't really know any of it, but I know it's So then you have all the movies, right? And granted there's been some duds or whatever, but like overall, they, they, they had some iconic movies. And even like in the later years, there are some really good ones or like good ones, you know, decent ones.
Ice Bear (30:44)
Mm hmm. Yeah, no, his stand up is mid.
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (31:02)
But then when you put something like, when I see that, and I would say like Adam Sandler's never been the greatest, but like he's always been like good, you know, overall, like, again, yeah, like, if somebody said Adam Sandler was his favorite comedian, I'd like, that's a little weird. But like, if one of somebody's favorite movie was an Adam Sandler movie, I'd like, I can understand it. You know what I mean? Like, there's certain things I hold in high regard.
Ice Bear (31:11)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Top, top 50. Certified top 50.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Grizz (31:31)
But then I think of like Eddie Murphy, who was one of the greatest.
Ice Bear (31:38)
Yes.
Grizz (31:40)
Delirious phenomenal, but Eddie Murphy raw like Absolutely love her all right Clarice's fuck I'm trying to get the tiger to watch it next time we're together because of So like Phenomenal Comes out the gate has like what Beverly Hills cop You know all those movies like 90 professor and stuff and then like goes into the next realms of what like
Ice Bear (31:44)
Raw's still to this day.
Yep.
Grizz (32:08)
and
then the stuff after that like Norbit which some people love Norbit I'm kind of about it some parts are funny but like yeah uh but then you think of like a lot of the ones after that and then he leaves and he goes on hiatus and then he kind of comes back and like there just fails and it's like it's crazy that somebody that was up here just goes like you know what I mean just so low
Ice Bear (32:23)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, that is interesting. But then again, I don't know, there's something about that whole industry where people that are capable of really high highs just, I think they're just chasing paychecks. Because for me, the prime example of this is Nick Cage, who I hated until I was probably 30.
Grizz (32:54)
That's fair.
Ice Bear (33:02)
And then, and then I saw like pig and I was like, holy shit, is he a genius? And then I kind of rewatched a lot of the other stuff through that lens. And I'm like, ⁓ damn fair and loving in Las Vegas is actually really good.
Grizz (33:14)
I actually
yeah fear and love me. That was a great movie
Ice Bear (33:19)
and like the wicker man and so like Nick Cage has done some insanely good stuff, but he's also done pure and utter dog shit.
Grizz (33:21)
Yeah.
True, I've always seen him as kind of unhinged.
Ice Bear (33:33)
As a what?
Grizz (33:34)
I've always seen him as like kind of unhinged. Like I was like a weird guy. So like the fact that he does like great and crazy, like, know what I mean? And like things they never like milk toast or middle of the road. It's always like.
Ice Bear (33:36)
unhinged. For sure. Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, he does swing for the fences. I'll give him that.
Grizz (33:51)
Yeah, so like to me like so like that make it make sense that there are misses and there are hits. You know what mean? Yeah, I've. Yeah, I've always liked him.
Ice Bear (33:56)
Yeah, that's fair. I never really considered that. Cause I,
there are no, damn, that's a good point. He is not in a single script where you're like, I can imagine someone else doing that. Everything he's in, that's that's fucking Nick Cage movie. And you know it right away.
Grizz (34:14)
Yeah.
Yeah, it's because you even think of like the good movies. They're always kind of out there, too.
Ice Bear (34:26)
Yes.
Grizz (34:26)
And even if the movie itself in like the plot isn't, his character is.
Ice Bear (34:33)
Okay, hold on. Sorry, I'm really curious because I don't think we've ever delved into this. Give me your Mount Rushmore of stand-up comics.
Grizz (34:47)
Ooh. Ooh.
All-time or like moderate or like ⁓ This is actually gonna hard
Ice Bear (34:55)
All time. All time. And
go full body of work. So if it's someone where they fell off at the end, like for example, for me, and I understand if this isn't for everyone, but for me, George Carlin is on mine, but he did fall off at the end.
Grizz (35:14)
Yeah,
yeah, but George Carlin, damn. So I was gonna put Carlin under some of mine, because some of them are like a...
Ice Bear (35:25)
Anything he did from like 70 to like 99 is fucking gold. And actually probably aged as well as humanly possible. Particularly some of his anti-government and anti-American takes. Those aged real well.
Grizz (35:29)
Yeah, I was gonna say late 90s. Yeah. For me.
Mm-hmm.
yeah, well that's where
Well his thing too was needed necessarily anti-american. It was would always boil back to the government, right?
Yeah, so like that biggest thing like the anti government and anti censorship stuff. Well, like I was gonna put Carl in as one of them. ⁓
Ice Bear (36:06)
I have another for sure. You want to hear it as a hint? See if we agree two for two. Chappelle is for sure on mine.
Grizz (36:10)
Go home.
Yeah,
Chappelle was number one for my like, as in like, for sure that's gonna be one.
Ice Bear (36:18)
There are so many things from ⁓ Like the Fillmore one like to this day fucking 20 years later Give me some of that grape drink. I think about that non-stop
Grizz (36:33)
Go go
home, baby. I got kids to feed
Ice Bear (36:37)
Or the homeless guy terrorizing people on the bus.
Grizz (36:42)
And then...
⁓ shit, dude, there's so much.
Ice Bear (36:53)
and magnify that with the cultural impact of Chappelle show on my like school years. Because there would be days where a new episode came out and it was like, you know, like me and half the school, know, you know, which half of the school would be like, what? Okay.
Grizz (36:59)
yeah.
He may.
Okay, I was gonna say he brought
he single-handedly brought Rick James back to freaking like relevancy
Ice Bear (37:22)
the Rick James thing, the Little John thing, the Prince... Computer blue, darling pinky. We would do that when we were playing, when we were doing pickup games. We'd check the ball and I'd be like, darling pinky.
Grizz (37:24)
Prince blouses game blouses and then and
And then he made us pancakes.
Just that, fricking, mean, even just the mean, the modern problems, modern solutions, that's Chappelle. That meme comes from Chappelle. Like you have that to fricking, that, that it wasn't the race Olympics. Do you remember Tiger Woods? Yeah. Right. Was it, what was it? goodbye friend, right? Hello, fried chicken. Like.
Ice Bear (38:06)
⁓ dude, the Tiger Woods. ⁓
It was, it was all so good. And the fact that he left in the middle of like the height of his powers, because that was like a, you know, his his personal like, now this is getting weird. And it's not funny. That to me is like the peak of
Grizz (38:34)
the integrity and insane.
And the fact that he would go with a PA speaker, like at parks and just like, like, and you stand up here and there and then kind of just.
Ice Bear (38:45)
Yeah. And his,
from what I understand his club in Ohio is just like a renovated firehouse. He's just working shit out for random people in the middle of Ohio. It's awesome.
Grizz (38:52)
Yeah, it gets chill.
It's
an interesting fucking dude and he's an ordinary Kuya so you know ⁓ like Chappelle is definitely number one I don't care what anybody fucking says he's number one even at that outside of his stand-up killing him softly fucking dude great also one of my all-time favorite movies that was like most quoted in middle school for me
Ice Bear (39:04)
you
Grizz (39:26)
I was fucking half-baked. Half-baked. I just like, I'm someone's bitch. I'm someone's bitch.
Ice Bear (39:26)
Half baked? Yep. What was...
What is, who's the like derpy white guy from that movie? What is that dude's name? No. Is that Brian Regan? No. No, that's not Brian Regan. What is his name? No.
Grizz (39:38)
Brian Reed or?
The, yeah, man, yeah. That's Brian Regan. I
learned Brian. No, wait, no. Yeah, no, no, no, Not Brian Regan. His other dude's name. Hold on. Jim Brewer. Jim Brewer. There you go. Jim Brewer. Yeah, man.
Ice Bear (39:51)
Now, let's.
Jim Brewer Thank you. Yes, that's it.
Yeah. Yeah. All right. So we're in agreement. We're two for two. We've got two left.
Grizz (40:04)
Yeah.
I would poo.
Ice Bear (40:12)
I have one that I go back and forth on. So I'm not that confident about this one, but I will say it at peak has made me laugh as hard as anyone else.
And that is Sir Jim Gaffigan.
Grizz (40:36)
⁓ so he, it's true. Like Jim Gaffigan, Jim Gaffigan's, Jim Gaffigan's one where as the years gone on, I like him less and less, but he has like one or two standups that I fucking love. Is it beyond the pale? Right. Or like, I fucking love that standard. It's so fucking funny.
Ice Bear (40:39)
because it's very clean and sometimes boring.
Same.
It's yes. Yep.
hold on. I thought of another one and I can immediately toss him out. I thought of my third.
Grizz (41:08)
Very well.
Ice Bear (41:09)
Bilber.
Grizz (41:20)
I do like Bill Burr but he's very like one note.
Ice Bear (41:25)
That's fair. That's true.
Grizz (41:26)
So,
so like I overall, I like bill burr, but when somebody's like, don't like them because if these reasons make it, get it. But what's the, standup with the Rihanna bit and the one where he's wearing like that, the button up. get kind of like probably a decade ago at this point. It hits the whole one where it's like, ⁓ the whole, like the view says like they come down to things like you should never hit a woman.
And then it's a whole, and he's like, he's like the one who's like, this is going to be a guy that's like beating his wife. He's like, it's kind of a fucking rust. Cause like the kid, the can opener thing, that one, like that, that standup one's fucking perfect. Top tier hall of fame standup specials. Uh, the, early stuff when he was doing like the 30 minute specials, when it was like,
Ice Bear (42:02)
you
Grizz (42:18)
Him being Kim and then dating the black girl and like learning what lotion was he's like white foot don't get ashy then he like Scratch it, you know, mean like like all that stuff was great, you know, ⁓ I Would put him up there as one of like the modern greats for sure
Ice Bear (42:22)
⁓ yeah. ⁓ yeah.
That was very good. Yeah, that was very good.
All right. I'm no longer sold. You've talked me out of my own pick. So I only have two that I'm super confident about so far. I need two more. How do you, how do you feel? How do you feel about like the ones that rely heavily on cultural awareness, like Joe Coy or Gabrielle Iglesias? ⁓ okay. I got my third and it's a slam dunk. What, but first talk about those two.
Grizz (42:44)
Yeah, this is a good one.
So like.
I have one
that I'm not super sure on because he's super like he's now but I fucking love. But Gae Runge, I see this is first up I really really liked as time goes gone on I've kind of liked a little less but he's still funny because like everything's kind of built on the same thing so as it's gone on I'm kind of like eh about it but I remember when he was first coming out like
Ice Bear (43:24)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (43:31)
Before the fluffy stuff fly was like cemented all the stuff before that I guess fucking hilarious After like the fluffy bit was established and it kind of went on and on I'm like I'm like them less or like maybe maybe I don't mean I just fell off of him like it was kind of like you just wasn't interesting to me anymore so that's where I'm like but like I like Jokoi a lot like even now I think I've watched clips of this stuff and like just with the Filipino mom and like all like
Ice Bear (43:34)
Mm-hmm.
Agreed.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (44:01)
fucking just the dress up like it's just it's fucking hilarious.
Ice Bear (44:01)
Joseph.
Joseph.
Yeah, no.
Grizz (44:07)
I don't know if I put
Joseph Jo Koy as one of the greatest though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wouldn't.
Ice Bear (44:10)
No, he's not. He's not. thought of number
three and I feel like you're going to agree. I have a confirmed to number three. You ready for it? Tom Segura and I will die on this hill. There is not a single special that's not gold. His show's funny. His interviews are funny. He's there. And the fact that he can do it in English and Spanish is a bonus point.
Grizz (44:15)
I'm curious now.
soon. Yeah.
Kamsagura, disgraceful. Yeah.
It's true.
Ice Bear (44:39)
because he's funny in Spanish too.
Grizz (44:42)
I think it's disgraceful where he's talking about work. He's checking into the hotel and the guy's like, oh you it was like Japanese like now He's like, oh, I thought you guys Japanese. He's like sounds Japanese. Like what do mean? He's like, it's a good
Ice Bear (44:57)
So good.
Grizz (45:07)
I'm like...
Ice Bear (45:09)
Hernandez!
Grizz (45:10)
Yeah.
So like, that just sounds like a Ben Stiller character to me.
Damn. Cigarette, damn. Cigarette is up.
Ice Bear (45:19)
⁓
Sidebar, A minus, double A minus so far.
Grizz (45:27)
You fucking knocking out of the part
Alright, so like, I'm trying to think.
Ice Bear (45:39)
Wait, are you done? Can I crack my third?
Grizz (45:41)
Last bit.
Ice Bear (45:47)
You're trooper. You're a good man. You're a good pal.
Grizz (45:53)
You're gonna you're gonna introduce it first you're crack it first ⁓
Ice Bear (45:58)
I'll wait for you.
Grizz (46:01)
We're gonna crack them together then introduce them.
Ice Bear (46:02)
tandem crack introduce and then finish this debate. And I'm willing to hear arguments if you don't like any of my picks so far.
Grizz (46:06)
Alright.
Cigarettes and contentious, but I do like to grow a lot. I'm I'm on the fence. I'm more Ready a one a two. Let's quiddly doodly-doo
I don't know what's been up today. Maybe we've just been hankering from, but the cracks have been fucking on point. God damn. All right. So I don't know if I put cigar on my tongue on my mountain rush more. I think my one, the one I'm thinking of this more modern that I can understand people that don't like them.
Ice Bear (46:32)
They have been, 100%.
Grizz (46:52)
But for me is up there. think he's probably my cigarro. I think he's probably my cigarro. So I think our round will differ and these will be the switched. I understand your cigarro because I really fucking like him and was it the is it your mom's house or was it was the podcast fucking hilarious like fucking phenomenal. Even his shit with Bert Kreischer.
Ice Bear (47:14)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
should we dock him for having the bears thing? Because isn't there two bears, one cave? ⁓ he's not allowed anymore. Sorry, sicker. He's not allowed anymore. All right, give me your...
Grizz (47:25)
Yeah, it is.
But
my Cigarra that I would totally accept from people like, I don't know, but I fucking love him is fucking ⁓ Andrew Schultz. I fucking love Schultz.
Ice Bear (47:45)
Hmm...
He is very funny.
Grizz (47:50)
But again, for people, yeah, for sure. That's what I'm saying. I could be like where I'm not sure he's there, but if I think of anybody modern, he's up there. He's probably my favorite modern comic.
Ice Bear (47:51)
And he's not on mine for sure. That's a hard no for me.
Grizz (48:09)
So like, I don't know if I'd put him on my mountain rush more, but he's a contender for me personally.
Ice Bear (48:17)
you
Grizz (48:18)
But like he's one where like, like, okay, I would say he's probably my sagura.
Ice Bear (48:25)
That's fair. I think we should remove both of them and start from scratch.
Grizz (48:28)
Yeah, yeah,
because I don't think they belong in like the whole of Ames
Ice Bear (48:33)
Yeah, no, they're not. They're not Carlin. They're not Chappelle. They don't they don't belong in that conversation.
Grizz (48:37)
Yeah.
So how about this? What do you feel about Eddie Murphy? Because Eddie Murphy has like, now when you think full body work, that's where it issues. If you just think stand up, he's up there for sure. But full body of work, I'm like, dude, he has a fuck ton of misses when it comes to movies.
Ice Bear (48:43)
He
Yeah, that's what that's all we're talking about.
No, we're talking about just full body of stand up work. So I'm willing to entertain because we're all alone.
Grizz (48:59)
Yeah.
Name something better than Delirious
and Raw.
Like you know what I mean? Like if we're going just stand up, I think Eddie Murphy is one of them.
Ice Bear (49:10)
⁓ Yeah. ⁓
Yeah, I'm...
Mmm.
Grizz (49:23)
I'll say
he's wild card. Murphy's wild card. If we can't think of two more to go there, he's wild card. So are we just going stand up? Because I was factoring in, OK, just stand up. Because originally I was factoring in movies too. So just stand up. Yeah, so Eddie Murphy goes way up the ranks and it is just stand up. Because again, man, Delirious and Rod are some of the greatest. Absolutely some of the greatest.
Ice Bear (49:26)
I'm. ⁓
Yes, I'm willing to entertain that. Yes. Pure stand-up. Yep.
no, okay, I cheated a little bit. I was just looking up like a top hundred from Google just to jog my memory. And there's a couple that are like flying to the top for me that are contenders. But before we get there, let me show you this little ad.
Grizz (49:55)
Yeah.
Ooh, there's one.
my god, that's a beautiful fucking color.
Ice Bear (50:13)
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Grizz (50:21)
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Okay.
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This is the most- ⁓ my god. I have never been so jealous of a fucking cat in my life.
Ice Bear (50:43)
you
He's just ready to go.
Grizz (50:52)
This is an episode 20. Do we have a hop? my God, dude. So we have chubs and the crocodile and then a hop-eye. That is fucking beautiful.
Ice Bear (51:01)
Chubs and Haw-Pi.
Grizz (51:07)
Any other thing would have been.
That probably would have been the top. But here's the thing.
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Ice Bear (52:30)
There it is, Anchorman away. it's so good.
Grizz (52:35)
News Team Assemble.
Ice Bear (52:39)
I'm so glad that made the trip with you.
man, well, like if you're talking like movies, Will Ferrell is one of my favorites. I really like Will Ferrell movies.
Grizz (52:53)
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Ice Bear (53:03)
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Grizz (53:18)
Boom. Damn. I think you did a one for zest.
Ice Bear (53:28)
I hope that was five. don't know. Lost count.
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Grizz (53:36)
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Ice Bear (53:41)
Okay.
So full disclosure, because I had a four, seven, a four, eight, then Hopi is a six, eight. So you're, you're a madman.
It looks great.
Grizz (53:59)
This was the first S-Class beard to ever grace our bail lips.
Ice Bear (54:06)
I remember, I remember the joy.
Remember the joy.
Okay. All right, so.
Grizz (54:22)
that's class. ⁓
Ice Bear (54:24)
So back to the Mount Rush mark, because I think I found my definite third. Yeah.
Grizz (54:29)
You're definitely a
third? Hit me. Because I don't think as much as like Cigarra as much as I Tom Strolls, I don't think they belong on there.
Ice Bear (54:36)
I'm with you. I agree. Little more work to do. Give him a few years maybe. But right now, no. ⁓ Louis CK.
Grizz (54:47)
Fuck yeah, definitely. Yup. Easy. Easy. Yeah, 1000%.
Ice Bear (54:51)
Yeah.
for there's all right much like chapelle there are a few bits that are just permanently running through my head i think my favorite of which is an early one where he's talking about like stereotypes that are like inoffensive he's like portericans are made of candy
Grizz (55:13)
Yeah.
That's a good one. That one I just wanted to hold daughter thing is just the wise and this is deconstructing things that which isn't cannot be like
It's so fucking good like Louis CK definitely in my opinion deserves to be on that route much route Mount Rushmore
Ice Bear (55:42)
I'm also not
100 % sure how he's gotten away for so long with dropping N-bombs. It baffles me to this day.
Grizz (55:52)
think it's, you know, because he's a legend. mean, what was the Carlin's like 790 words? What was the 790, right?
Ice Bear (55:55)
Yeah, but the one where.
That wasn't one of them. I'm positive about it.
Grizz (56:04)
No, I'm pretty
sure it was.
Ice Bear (56:07)
Hold on. I'll investigate. I'll invest.
Grizz (56:10)
I'm talking, I know Karlin for sure hard
R stuck the landing fucking like fireworks launched when he landed too.
Ice Bear (56:18)
All right, hold on. Let's look up George
Carlin's seven words.
Okay, here we go. And we will now get the ⁓ Yeah, no, it was not. And luckily, I can say all these. I'll still I'll get us canceled. We're fine. Your George Carlin seven words you can never say on television are shit piss fuck cunt cocksucker motherfucker and tits.
Grizz (56:50)
George Carter definitely has a fucking hard orbit, doesn't he? I'm 1000%.
Ice Bear (56:56)
Not that I'm aware of, but I'm not doubting you.
Grizz (57:02)
No, wait, George. Yeah, yeah, George Carlin. had a he had a fucking key. Didn't he have a thing where he called he called Richard Pryor?
Ice Bear (57:02)
You were-
Look,
you have enough melanin to get away with this. I'm backing off and I will let you do whatever you want to do here.
Grizz (57:16)
No, George
Carlin had a bit or he had a thing where he called Richard Pryor and I think Eddie Murphy fucking hard are like straight up and he's like He's like and it doesn't fucking matter because you know what? They're my friends and I fucking love them and you know the intention behind that I'm making thing words that have meaning go all about attention when you're a piece of shit like you don't even like intentions the whole thing Which is very carlin
Ice Bear (57:26)
didn't know that.
Yeah, that's true.
Grizz (57:44)
Yeah,
but I'm pretty like I'm 1000 % low like he had a bit or he called I'm pretty sure it's Eddie Murphy, but for sure Richard Pryor Richard Richard Pryor to Eddie Murphy or he's like hard R
Ice Bear (57:56)
Speaking of, how do you feel about prior?
Grizz (58:00)
Pryor's one where I feel like he's too old for me to appreciate. You know what mean? Cause like when people talk about him and everything and even the ones they talk about and I watch with my dad and stuff and I'm like, I don't see it, but my dad's dying. You know what I mean?
Ice Bear (58:06)
same.
Mm-hmm.
Cause that's
the same era where you're like, I lunch with someone that's not my race. And it's like a wild like outlandish thought. And we're too far ahead of that. What was edgy then is just so commonplace now. doesn't land anyway.
Grizz (58:32)
Yeah.
Yeah.
And
the thing is like and maybe this is just a me thing but when stuff's like like
Lude to a sense where it's like becomes a meme of itself. I'm always like about I don't like and so Richard Pryor was kind of like like like that to me too. But when I see somebody older and they mentioned Richard Pryor like I get it right. I I I imagine I equate Pryor as like the 70s chapelle. You know what I mean? Like like because I can see somebody now saying they don't like chapelle because of whatever and the whole
Ice Bear (58:56)
you
Grizz (59:20)
the climate of shit now, right? Like, whatever. I get it. But I, to me, I'm like, I would put prior as that day, Chappelle. So for me is that, you yeah. So if, if Louis CK is the third, I have my fourth for sure. And I'm totally fine with you not having him as your fourth, but he's my fourth and he's not going to be not my fourth. Rafi, me.
Ice Bear (59:21)
sure. 100%.
Yep. I agree. All right.
Okay, let me hear it.
Grizz (59:51)
I love Rafi, I don't give fuck. I love Rafi, man.
Ice Bear (59:57)
I think my favorite thing about Ralphie May, because he was on that that American Idol version of stand up right? What was that show called? Last Comic Standing or something? And didn't he lose to some guy that basically had one set? And it was all he had. And then Ralphie May was like, I actually like I write jokes like I'm going to remain funny after this when like that guy said it. What was that guy's name?
Grizz (1:00:04)
Yeah. I don't even fucking remember. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But Ralphie May was so fucking great though my god damn Ralphie made to me he's my fourth for sure he was always going to be in my personal route much more like Austin Dacia's all the stuff like the way he talked about the Scooby Doo lunchboxes with the kids like
Ice Bear (1:00:43)
I, I, okay. I can see why that's on yours. I now help me out because I'm, I'm down to three, because I've been looking through this list and I have three that are in contention for my final spot.
One requires some mental gymnastics because dead and it requires you to feel like what would he have done had he not been dead? Yep.
Grizz (1:01:10)
Mitch Hedberg.
I love Mitch Hedberg. Fuckin I love them. It's like you have a lot of cranial accessories and then they are smart because I was whatever other city does you have a lot of shit on your head or his thing is that 70 show to like
Ice Bear (1:01:29)
Yeah, but the one stand up where he's, it was like when Comedy Central was still relevant and he's clearly just absolutely drunk and possibly high. And he's just doing the one-liners and he's just like zoning out. He's like sitting on the step and he's like, damn, y'all are a great crowd. Not everyone likes this. So he's one of them.
Grizz (1:01:41)
Yeah.
you
I think Mitch Hedberg is
phenomenal. I love Mitch Hedberg stuff.
Ice Bear (1:02:00)
but
at the same time, you know, not a huge body of work. like, if we're talking about peaks, maybe he's there, but okay, I'm going to self eliminate him. So my next one is, has not aged well, but also kind of shaped my childhood in a way where it's hard for me. And I've also met him, which makes this extra hard.
Grizz (1:02:04)
Mm-hmm.
Cool.
⁓
Ice Bear (1:02:28)
because I recognize not a good human being. So I feel like I'm going to have to eliminate him based on that. But if we're isolating purely the comedy.
Grizz (1:02:32)
Ooh.
Ice Bear (1:02:41)
was pretty fucking funny, man.
Grizz (1:02:42)
do okay hold on here's one one I didn't bring it up but and it's kind of like PC was just funny because of like who he was we knew later
But Cosby stand up specials like him, him himself and I are so that one of the fucking greatest, especially like cleaner comedy specials. I remember like my aunt had it on VHS. And for fucking years, I'm talking about we would watch it kind of regularly.
Ice Bear (1:03:08)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (1:03:20)
Me, my aunt, my uncle, my dad, my other uncle, like my cousins, my brother, we'd all watch it and it's fucking like everybody would die fucking laughing every single time.
Ice Bear (1:03:29)
It's like,
it's the entertainment equivalent of comfort food, right?
Grizz (1:03:36)
Yeah, because you think of like, you think again, the stand up, it's a brown case, a brown box. he's like, and it's like, the thing is like him himself and whatever, but it's, the dentist joke. It's the fucking, uh, the whole, like when he's drilling and she's like fire, the whole fire thing, but the whole, like for me and my brother, for all the things we thought our name was dammit and Jesus Christ.
Ice Bear (1:03:44)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (1:04:00)
right like like it's just all of that shit like and even just the things in general like when i think of stuff and how it was like your parents are fucking terrible but when they have grandkids they're fucking all nice and shit and you're like that wasn't the fuck you you were you know what mean i think of that because the funny thing is like when i think of like my parents and then i think of like the cub and stuff i'm like
Ice Bear (1:04:11)
you
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (1:04:20)
y'all are fucking like so I genuinely remember those bits and like they pop in my head and it's still to this day one of my all-time favorite comedy specials
Ice Bear (1:04:25)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. And so, ⁓ so, how much backstory do I want to give here? We'll, we'll go minimal. So one of the first hotels I worked at, he was a guest there because he was performing in our neck of the woods. And so he was one of our first VIP guests when I was there. A couple of things. He tipped everyone very well. So right away, like if you tip our bellman, I like you.
Like you're, was cordial with everyone. He didn't, he didn't have a weird rider. Like his rider was just like, can I have a couple of bottles of water? Like it wasn't because some people like, dude. All right. You, you, you ready for the weirdest one?
Grizz (1:05:14)
I want green &Ms only.
Hit.
Ice Bear (1:05:20)
The weirdest writer was Joan Jett. Hers was like seven pages long and it was just insane stuff. And I was like, why do you want any of this? You're here for a day and a half.
Grizz (1:05:26)
to it.
She wanted her, she wanted your best shot, god damn it.
Ice Bear (1:05:36)
Yeah, anyway, so, but he was very pleasant in my personal interaction with him. So that makes it hard. Cause I'm like, man, obviously like the other stuff is objectively a terrible person.
Grizz (1:05:46)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. OK, OK, OK.
Take all that other stuff aside. Just of what body of work and what we know, right? Separate the art from the artist.
Ice Bear (1:05:55)
Yeah.
So that's the other thing, because because we're also talking just stand up, because if we're including full body of work, and we're talking about the Cosby show, too, I'd be hard, I'd be hard pressed. Because
Grizz (1:06:02)
Yeah.
iconic dude didn't fucking
fucking Theo just died right too yeah that yeah dude sides yeah side sidebar sidebar fucking what this last month fucking to what Theo Hulk Hulk and an Aussie it was rough it takes out like it covers all the subgenres of everything
Ice Bear (1:06:12)
Theo did just die, which is terrible, because Malcolm Drummond, who's fucking great actor, and so charming, such a charming guy.
Yeah, wild month.
Yeah.
man. That so it's funny because when Hulk died, that made me think, man, if if Stone Cold or Sean dies, I'm going to be sad when Shawn Michaels dies.
Grizz (1:06:44)
I once- I think once-
yeah, heartbreak kid. That's fair. I think I'll be more sad when Stone Cold dies.
Ice Bear (1:06:52)
And
I understand rattlesnake, Texas. also his like TikToks with his fucking ducks, like hopping in his car.
Grizz (1:06:55)
Yeah, for sure. I remember seeing him shopping too Or
his cat his fucking cat poncho He's a fucking cat dad now like dude, I fucking love cats and I love I mean I love stone cold and the thing is so like my mom worked at agb, right? She was in the meat She worked in like meat department at agb A lot of my life as a kid ⁓
Ice Bear (1:07:03)
The apocalypse.
Grizz (1:07:21)
So like most of the stuff I learned like when I like went into butchery and stuff like when I like started getting into that was because of my mom funny enough right. But at her store where she worked at and I would go visit her or my dad would drop me off over there and stuff. Stone Cold Steve Austin shop there. So like I remember.
Ice Bear (1:07:30)
Mm-hmm.
Really?
Grizz (1:07:44)
seeing Stone Cold Steve Aza with a fucking HEB basket in his hand looking in fucking like the cans of fucking food getting stuff and then I remember seeing him down the aisle and me being a fucking huge Stone Cold Steve Aza fan in elementary school I mean like and he'd be he'd look at me I hand to God that was percent I remember like looking at him he he looked at me and he went and fuck it I was like
fucking made my fucking year. This whole like, Stump Gold Steve Austin like.
Ice Bear (1:08:15)
I'm sure.
Okay, help me out. So you know how like every pay-per-view they toss him like a beer or 12 and he do the... What beer was it? Was it Coors Light?
Grizz (1:08:27)
Yeah, he's hooking. Yeah.
I thought it was because like, this is a silver can. So that was coarse. I've assumed it was coarse. Also, our boy came out with EPAS.
Ice Bear (1:08:33)
Okay.
I'm cold.
Grizz (1:08:42)
Yeah, I mean, I guess it's only here in Texas. But yeah, he has the broken ranch or whatever broken school ranch. He has a broken school ranch IPA. It's kind of expensive.
Ice Bear (1:08:51)
Wait,
he Ranchwater? Is that him?
Grizz (1:08:54)
He's I don't think I don't know for sure. I don't think he's ranch water cuz ranch water so so ranch water I don't think it's just a Texas thing. I think it's like a like a southwest thing I think I think it's a southwest that I'm assuming it is but I grew up with a lot of like I say grew up but like teens 20s Ranch what what ranch water is it's Tequila limes fruit, whatever mix with topo Chico so I assume it's
Ice Bear (1:08:58)
Okay.
Has that spread out now? Okay.
Mm.
Grizz (1:09:25)
Southwest thing But we had it here forever, right? But I'm assuming it's a solid like Texas to California. That's what I'm assuming. I don't know
Ice Bear (1:09:34)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (1:09:35)
But ranch water is usually a vodka infused sparkling water with like additives, is what you know that is. Here would be like a white tequila, topo chico, lime, and then whatever else shit you want to add to it, right? But the baseline is those three. But he has a broken skull ranch. And then he came out with an IPA and then a hazy.
And so like that's his kind of like Stone Cold Steve Austin's Broken Skull IPA. And so like we have him here everywhere like or I say everywhere but like Whole Foods and things like that they're there. And you can get them in like craft stores and it's a craft beer it's a four pack. But yeah but in Texas you can I say say here I'm not even in Texas right now but in Texas you can get those and they're not bad they're good.
Ice Bear (1:10:17)
Okay.
So sidebar, at some point, I would be very curious to know when, and I'm not sure it'll ever happen. I would be curious to know when Seattle starts to feel like home. I feel like it's probably never. Cause I feel like you're just like Texas. I feel like it's genetically in you. But if it ever happens, I'd be curious to know.
Grizz (1:10:51)
think so.
Yeah, I'll definitely.
Ice Bear (1:10:55)
Because again, it's my
favorite place I've ever lived.
Grizz (1:11:00)
I will say I haven't experienced Washington outside of like traveling. Right? Like I have stayed in Tacoma for like stints days, not long-term. So I don't know, but I liked Tacoma. Right.
Ice Bear (1:11:16)
I was.
Grizz (1:11:17)
And so it's funny enough when people find out that I was coming and have to stay in Washington for like a couple of years. They're like, I could see you in Tacoma. like, I like Tacoma. So it kind of matches. As far as cities go, I do like Seattle.
Ice Bear (1:11:28)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
It's, like, if you're going to be in a major city, it's, it's up there. It's for sure up there.
Grizz (1:11:40)
I like, I
like, cause again, you have all the problems it has. It's across every single major city. like it's whatever, but like, far as just kind of everything, I like Seattle way more than like LA. I like Seattle way more than like Philly, DC, most of the things. think the only other major city where like, I like probably more.
Ice Bear (1:11:58)
Sure. Yep.
Grizz (1:12:06)
Cause it's probably kind of more when I'm used to, guess Miami, but even at that, like there's lots of, don't like about Miami. So I don't like beat it a little bit, but like, yeah, I don't know.
Ice Bear (1:12:20)
The one thing that I really enjoyed about it was you have all of the food and drink influence of a global culture, but you have the blue collar American vibe because you still have a lot of people that are like fish market. You still have a lot of people that are like woodworkers. You have a lot of people. And then you also have that weird tech wealth where this like kind of like
Grizz (1:12:49)
Yeah, it is weird. Yeah. ⁓
Ice Bear (1:12:50)
edgy new age people too. It's a fun blend. And then you have
the Kurt Cobain hangover still.
Grizz (1:12:57)
Mm.
That's a perfect even a budget because you do have that you do have like blue collar aesthetic blue collar kind of vibes you do have like the tech brush it's huge here now especially like in the SLU area but then like you do have like I mean it's what this is the birthplace of grunge isn't it or like at least the hub so you do have like the whole counterculture whatever thing it's different than grunge in the 90s now like I like it kind of
Ice Bear (1:13:13)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
Grizz (1:13:28)
counterculture of the day kind of took it on to like, I do like it. I do like how I guess I call like, and they're not burrows, but like, I'll say burrows, but like, basically the neighborhoods within Seattle are so starkly different. Like cap hill vibe to like SLU to Queen Anne, like they're all different. And I do like that because it takes 20 minutes to get through all of them. know what mean? And so like,
Ice Bear (1:13:44)
They are very different.
Yes.
Yep. Yep.
Grizz (1:13:57)
I do enjoy that.
Cause currently, which is funny, like actually like out of the three times I was here in the last few months, two of the times I was in cap. The other time I was like right in the middle of cap hill and SLU. So like, but yeah, it's, it's, I, I, I have enjoyed it I've enjoyed most of the people here. There's some weirdos, but I overall, I do like it. Like, yeah.
Ice Bear (1:14:24)
Good. OK.
Alright,
before I present to you my final nominees for my Mount Rushmore, since Ralphie May finished yours out, I want to get to the thing at the start of the episode that I wanted to talk about that I completely forgot about until now. Whenever we do the Gorilla episode, I want to go to a Tacoma Minor League Baseball game.
And I want to do the nine for nine thing. I want to have nine beers, nine hot dogs in the nine innings. I think we would have a blast. I think that would be super fun.
Grizz (1:15:02)
This so
just so yeah, so just a beer and a dog and then we can definitely that's easy. That's like work.
Ice Bear (1:15:11)
because
I was just watching a guy do it on TikTok and like by the seventh inning he was and I was thinking, man, if I don't eat breakfast, it's not hard. Especially because in a baseball stadium, what is the beer? It's probably a Coors lighter, a Bud lighter, you know, it's not it's nothing crazy.
Grizz (1:15:18)
Your bitch, what are you talking about? Nine dollars? Yeah, we can do nine.
Easy.
Yeah. You think of that like, wait, because you have we talked about like the, we did the corn dog contest, have we talked about it on the podcast? I don't know if we have. Yeah. Nine dogs is easy work. It is nothing. No, I thought I got closer to 30. Yeah. I know I close.
Ice Bear (1:15:44)
I don't know. I don't think so.
nothing. What did you do 25?
Maybe you did 30. Did I do 25?
Grizz (1:15:59)
You got I think you got in the 20s. I think I got I think I got into the 30s
Ice Bear (1:16:03)
What did Pan get?
Grizz (1:16:05)
It's closer to you, but he before you I he had like my 18 19, right?
Ice Bear (1:16:11)
Yeah, because I remember
I remember I went to Sonic after work, and they just like loaded up bags. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah.
Grizz (1:16:15)
I remember I bought 40 corn dogs. Yeah, I remember I got 40 corn dogs.
I 40 about 40 corn dogs. know for sure when that right before I bought 40 corn dogs
Ice Bear (1:16:29)
Did hops do it or was she involved at that point?
Grizz (1:16:32)
Yeah, I think it was hops he may meet you. It was all of us. It was literally everyone.
Ice Bear (1:16:37)
is everyone.
Good times. Man, I wish Sonic was up here. I'd go to town on some Sonic dogs.
Grizz (1:16:46)
Dude, I fucking
love Sonic. So I had Sonic with the Tiger like the last time when I was in Joshua Tree.
Tiger at the very release. I don't think she really fucked with like the Coney dog as much just kind of am about it But the tiger she loved I Got the green light on the chili cheese tater tots And so at their end and she's brought it up multiple times. I'm like I'm happy right cuz to me The best thing to get a sonic is a fucking footlong Coney dog with the shield yeast dots
Ice Bear (1:17:10)
Good. Yeah, that's the.
Yeah, that's the important one.
Grizz (1:17:24)
and then like a Route 44 slush. Any flavor, I don't give a fuck.
Ice Bear (1:17:28)
⁓
hold on.
That's what the kids are doing these days. I think so. I've watched Love Island with the, with the Mrs.
Grizz (1:17:34)
Are they? Look at this.
Ice Bear (1:17:41)
So one of these means clock it and one of these means something else. I don't remember, but just.
Grizz (1:17:46)
I don't know. Isn't
Lava Island like the one with the fuckboys and the harlots?
Ice Bear (1:17:50)
love
island is pure trash TV and it's very good background noise. Okay, all right. So here's my last two help me decide for me. I'm gonna I'm gonna say both at once that way we don't get distracted with the first one. There's two in contention. It's gonna be one of these one more modern one dead.
Grizz (1:17:57)
Sure.
Okay, all right, all right, all right.
Ice Bear (1:18:20)
Alright, Norm MacDonald and Bo Burnham. One of those is my fourth. So Bo Burnham because the thing he released on Netflix during COVID, like Inside I think it was called.
Grizz (1:18:27)
Mmm.
Okay,
fair, because okay, here's this. I did not watch that. Although I love Bo Burnham, because so for my Bo Burnham knowledge is prior to that, like mid 2000s and on and Bo Burnham is fucking great.
Ice Bear (1:18:45)
Okay.
Okay, watch that because that to this point is by far his best work. And also because you and I are both pretty anti government. It's his most anti government like it's it's it's a like anti political piece. So for sure watch it.
Grizz (1:19:00)
Really?
Interesting, okay, because even with because
a because Bo Burnham was never really that
Ice Bear (1:19:22)
Trust me, he's there now.
Grizz (1:19:23)
Like he had,
yeah, so like, that's really interesting.
Ice Bear (1:19:27)
It's it's
if I had to do like one word for it like as a descriptor like a catch-all for that special. It's probably anarchist.
Grizz (1:19:34)
Yeah.
Interesting I I definitely have so good because without that one Bo Burnham is great. I I I law I His stand-ups and even like the close you would see on YouTube is off like he's up there So Bo Burnham
Ice Bear (1:19:41)
you
Mm-hmm.
And Bo Burnham has the added element of being musically gifted. so you being an actual musician and me being a layman, is he actually musically talented? Okay. So yeah, I think that gives him bonus points. But Norm, the thing about Norm, much like the other ones I've mentioned so far, the moth joke.
Grizz (1:20:02)
Musical, yeah, yeah, yeah, true.
Yeah, he's good. He's good. He is solid.
The thing is like Here's the thing though
Mod jokes fucking to this day when says a greatest joke ever told I will say no McDonald's much joke is that one? It's perfect. Here's here. I think here's the thing though. I think no McDonald's deserves it more but here's the thing It's just stand-up though, right
Ice Bear (1:20:46)
Mm-hmm. Yes.
Grizz (1:20:48)
All his great shit in Saturday Night Live is not a standup.
Ice Bear (1:20:52)
That's true. And a lot of his interviews are really funny too. Cause the, cause the moth joke was on Conan.
Grizz (1:20:56)
but they're not stand up.
Yeah, so that's the thing. I think Normie Donald is one of the goats, one of the greats. He deserves all the accolades as comedians as a whole, right?
Ice Bear (1:21:15)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (1:21:20)
But if the parameter is stand up, just stand up to math joke is in there. All his shit. I do normally Donald shit about Hillary Clinton. It's so phenomenally amazing. I'll tell you that life. Like, it's so good. But none of that's factored in if we're just talking about stand ups.
Ice Bear (1:21:28)
Yeah.
He
That's true. That's true.
Grizz (1:21:48)
So if we're
going just standups, it's Bo Burnham.
Ice Bear (1:21:53)
Okay, all right, I'm fine with that. That's my fourth then. So you got Ralphie May, I got Barnum.
Grizz (1:21:57)
But it feels,
but it does feel wrong. I'm not going to lie. That does feel wrong when you're competing those two against each other. But we just talking about standups. Oh.
Ice Bear (1:22:03)
No
Actually, the
more I'm thinking about it, I know you and I always do this. We have episodes where like, all right, you watch this or I read this or you listen to this. Please watch inside. Just do it.
Just do it.
no, you're gone. We have a little hiccup.
Grizz (1:22:45)
Okay, so my laptop died for whatever it was wild so I joined you on my phone so you could you couldn't hear me I could hear you the entire time. I Heard you the entire time I will leave everything in I don't know with the laptops. I guess we got to hurry this shit up. So
Ice Bear (1:22:47)
I can hear you now, And also there's a third ⁓ you.
Leave all of this in.
Good.
Grizz (1:23:11)
To make sure I am on the same thing, let's see.
Ice Bear (1:23:18)
All right. ⁓ well, you're, while you're doing whatever you're Bo Burnham is number four for me. And, ⁓ my final one is an A and watch inside. You will love it.
Grizz (1:23:31)
Yeah, I will most definitely watch it. I will most definitely watch it. Burnham, think, if again, if we're just talking about things that work with standup, think Bo Burnham beats.
Ice Bear (1:23:46)
norm. ⁓
Grizz (1:23:48)
Although, if we're talking about as a whole, think Norm deserves it more. But if we're just talking about stand-up, Bo beats Norm.
Ice Bear (1:23:54)
I agree.
I agree on all fronts.
Grizz (1:24:07)
But I most definitely watched Bob Burnham's last thing. Yeah, I'm almost done. Yeah.
Ice Bear (1:24:12)
Yeah, please. It's an hour. Give me an hour. I know you work like 75
hours a week, but give me one hour.
Grizz (1:24:21)
I'll do that. News team assemble. It's still a fucking S. I'm telling you, it's an S. This one right here, A minus.
Happy Gilmore. Gold jacket, green jacket, fucking A minus. If you argue with me it was an A plus, will like, I mean I will agree with you and maybe I'll understand. But A minus.
Ice Bear (1:24:54)
A minus A minus.
day.
Grizz (1:24:59)
S
Ice Bear (1:25:04)
That's how you do an episode 20.
Grizz (1:25:07)
That was a beautiful episode 20. Full of greatness, full of harfs, full of funniness, full of everything. Was it not?
Ice Bear (1:25:17)
It was. I'm not going to argue.
Grizz (1:25:20)
It literally had everything.
Ice Bear (1:25:23)
had everything. I'm gonna cry after so even sadness. Yep.
Grizz (1:25:27)
Right?
And look at that, we're at 128 of shenanigans. Right? For hour and a half, we are in a nice thing. We had fucking technical difficulties. We had horrors, we had harsh, we had debate. We had good fucking beers. What else we got?
Ice Bear (1:25:35)
It's just a good, it's a good mark too. It's a, everything about it's perfect.
It's fun.
⁓ We have one of these
There we go. Two bears, two bears. ⁓
Grizz (1:26:00)
Bum bum.