Ice Bear (00:33)
⁓ those were reasonable and sexy.
Grizz (00:34)
Ahem.
I think yours was, mine was a little lackluster I'll say.
Ice Bear (00:46)
So, um... Once again, big elephant in the room. This is not the normal room. What the fuck's going on here? This is a guerilla episode. Guerilla episode one.
Grizz (00:47)
Ahem.
or the microphones.
Nothing like an episode 20 anniversary with a guerilla episode. And that's the real
Ice Bear (01:07)
This can't be
20. This can't be 20. This has to be 19.5 and or Guerilla Episode 1.
Grizz (01:17)
I like, okay, we'll do 19.5 is good We'll do 19.5.
Ice Bear (01:24)
and or barely doing it, barely succeeding, barely trying.
Grizz (01:26)
Hopefully it's good.
I think barely succeeding are barely getting by.
Ice Bear (01:39)
There we go.
I mean, do I just pour mine out? Like, do I try and get something in my mouth with a pour and get the color that way?
Grizz (01:49)
Let's do it for posterity sake.
Ice Bear (01:50)
I mean, it
might go all over. I'm scared. ⁓ no, I'm very scared.
Grizz (01:56)
It'll be just fine, John, here, I'll keep you safe.
Ice Bear (02:00)
Well...
Well, yep. I a little spillaroos. A little spillarino on myself. That's okay. What do you have over there?
Grizz (02:11)
So here, oh, let's see, where are you at?
Where am I gonna start with this thick guy right here? All right.
All right. I'm just sort of just with the fight. I think the name is.
This is where it can. All right, we're just going with this. all over here has been.
been a traveling bears driven across the Great Plains of...
Skinwalker territory. Oh, Lord.
Ice Bear (02:53)
We're good. I collected the phone. We're back. Don't Barely succeeding.
Grizz (02:54)
the feds. I'm
barely getting by. I traveled a bunch of states to get to Washington and one of the states I went by is a very interesting state. It's a beautiful state that likes to do the Fenty Lane, the Fenty Fold, however you want to say it.
Ice Bear (03:20)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (03:23)
This right here is.
I don't know how to say this word. I don't think it's... Is this how you spell buoy?
Ice Bear (03:30)
I'm dying to see it.
Yes.
Grizz (03:39)
Yeah, I've now learned that I've never seen buoys spelled out IRL. Like I've never seen it.
Ice Bear (03:45)
like the thing that bobs up and down in the water.
Grizz (03:50)
Yeah, B-U-O-I, R-O-Y, look at that. Illiterate. Buoy Beer Company, Astoria, Oregon.
Ice Bear (04:01)
And now that you've called it into question, I'm wondering if I don't know how to spell it. And that's in fact wrong.
Grizz (04:10)
Yeah, so whether this is wrong or right, am I to judge Oregon's ⁓ spelling capabilities? This is a double epa called Taller Buoy, allegedly. It's brewed and canned by a Buoy beer company, allegedly. Astoria Oregon. is a premium pale in, okay, this double epa is premium pale in eunuch malts, top fermented.
Centennial, Idaho 7, and Chinook cops. It's an 8.7, 65, I-B-U. Recycle a buoy. Recycle, god damn it. I'm fucked up today. Recycle, recycle a buoy.
Ice Bear (04:57)
Recycle Recycle the booey
Well, that sounds good. I would drink it. I would drink every last bit of that tall boy.
Grizz (05:06)
Dude, I fucking
struggled with it.
You know, we're single.
Recycle
Prusikla, Prusikla, booy. Sorry. ⁓
Ice Bear (05:21)
So.
So, ⁓
so while you're enjoying that delicious Oregonian beer over there, we have another treat over here from our friends at Flying Monkeys. I cannot for the life of me remember if I have done this on the show yet. I've definitely had this in the past. This is, Quantum Uggs... Quantum Uggs Coddle... Coddle-epa.
So the quantum hugs cold EPA is a 6.1.
The answer to the question lies within the question, embracing both synopsis and creation. Soft clouds float above a bright golden body, hovering in a neural net of quirky hops, and then as always you have just insane fucking psychedelic art.
Grizz (06:18)
psychedelic art matches perfectly because I don't know if this connection thing is gonna it's gonna translate to the recordings. I don't think so because it's like isolated recording so I it's gonna be fine but I'm just saying on this end I feel like I'm in that psychedelic arc right now.
Ice Bear (06:39)
no, you're having trouble hearing me?
Grizz (06:40)
the quantumception.
Yeah, but ⁓ I've had drunk friends. I've deciphered things along my years, you know? I think we'll be alright.
Ice Bear (06:51)
It's interesting because you're like crystal clear for me.
Grizz (06:56)
There you ⁓
Ice Bear (06:57)
like beautiful, beautiful, snappy
4K video. can see every one of your beard hairs. Your voice is just bellowing at me like a little angel bear.
Grizz (07:10)
I like the...
like the idea of being a little angel bear. Because you know what? I feel like I've just been ⁓ a canary in the coal mine. Or you know what? I've been an heir of...
I've been an agent of chaos. As soon as I came to old Seattle, I had a freedom bird land on a mariner.
Ice Bear (07:44)
Yep, I didn't see that.
Grizz (07:46)
Russia had an earthquake and they blew up. And that was led to a tsunami that might take out our boys in the whole Hawaii.
Ice Bear (07:59)
What a time to be alive.
Grizz (08:00)
And me. And the tiger,
really.
I think it's just the disturbance in the force that I'm out of Texas for too long.
Ice Bear (08:10)
Yeah, I think the balance is adjusting and the world at large had to shake itself. Because it didn't know what to do without your grandiose presence in Texas. Texas, well, normally bigger, is a little bit smaller now.
Grizz (08:28)
That was the sweetest thing yet. That was the sweetest thing anyone's ever told me in my life.
Ice Bear (08:29)
a little bit smaller with that old rear.
Well, now I don't know.
Grizz (08:44)
You're like a nice, he was dapper too, so I can't say a dapper. You're a nice, cunning, earnest Hemingway.
Ice Bear (08:57)
Mmm, that's high praise But the real question is the little Hemingway drink his beers while riding a John Deere. That's that's the real question
What was was Hemingway on? Just a desk like an animal.
Grizz (09:08)
That's, you know.
You probably aren't an actual deer to be honest.
Ice Bear (09:16)
Mmm. Mm-hmm.
Grizz (09:18)
or
a deer named John. I think he's just honored deer named John.
Ice Bear (09:23)
Alright. What's favorite Hemingway?
and or least favorite Hemingway.
Grizz (09:40)
Yeah. ⁓
Let me make sure I'm getting this right path, this passage correctly. Cause it's just specifically my favorite. It would be.
Ice Bear (09:49)
Alright, well you're
finding that? I hate Old Man in the Sea.
Grizz (09:57)
⁓ Yeah, I I kind of actually honestly like read comment out to be honest ⁓
Ice Bear (10:04)
And the main reason
is it was one of those things that we were forced to read in high school. And I forgot about it till like two days before the assignment was due. And so I had to just like rapid fire read that. And I was like, I'm not a fucking old timey whale hunter. I'm not, I don't care.
Grizz (10:10)
That's fair.
you
You know, with Old Man in the Sea, I like... I was never into like sea tales, like, never... I would pick Old Man in the Sea versus Moby Dick. And I put those to the same, because there's old sea dog. You know what mean?
Ice Bear (10:35)
That's fair.
Yeah, that's fair.
Grizz (10:44)
I think... ⁓
The one I know the most that I've like read a couple times because of school and stuff was The Sun Also Rises.
Ice Bear (10:58)
Mmm.
Grizz (10:59)
⁓ I admittedly never finished For Whom the Bell Tolls, but my favorite Hemingway because like sad type thing is just was ⁓ a Farewell to Arms.
Ice Bear (11:14)
Okay.
Grizz (11:17)
Ain't nobody get closer. It's just depressing. And you know what? If you know all grizz, that's right up my alley.
Ice Bear (11:17)
I like it.
Have you ever seen the like the game changer tick-tock where all the people are talking about it's like all three of them are pretending to be in a book club but no one's really read the book
I feel like after we post this, lot of people are gonna be like, yeah, when you guys were talking about that, I've never read any of those.
Grizz (11:43)
Ha ha ha!
Yeah.
Hemingway is one word for like outside of high school did you really read any Hemingway?
Ice Bear (12:02)
Absolutely not. No.
Grizz (12:06)
Yeah, like, cause even when I read them, cause I read them all around that time and it was like, it was like reading fucking the Cadbury Tells, you know what I mean?
Ice Bear (12:17)
Wait, hold on, the what-pails?
Grizz (12:17)
It's like...
Like, was it the Cadbury Tales or some shit like that, wherever the fuck those... things are?
Ice Bear (12:24)
Alright,
I-
I love this because I'm hoping the Cadbury Tales are a real thing that I'm unaware of. My assumption, however, might be that you're talking about the Canterbury Tales. The Cadbury Tales would be like about the little chocolate Easter eggs. And I just really like thinking there's just a thing about delicious chocolates and it's just bears like chowing down on chocolate Easter eggs.
Grizz (12:40)
Sure. Sure. It's like, it's a... yeah. That would be awesome.
That's much better than the fuckin' was it Cannonberry Tales or is it?
Ice Bear (12:57)
Canterbury Tales.
Grizz (12:59)
Yeah, I fucking, as you can tell, I fucking died. Eyes glazed over. Very good. Getting through that in high school.
Ice Bear (13:05)
⁓ I... I... I...
I also hated it, but I did enjoy there's the one bit in that where the there's like implied anal sex and my teacher in high school was really prudish. So we're like, well, they clap the cheeks and the teacher lost their mind. was great.
Grizz (13:26)
Hahaha!
Ice Bear (13:32)
It was great.
Grizz (13:33)
Yes.
Did you ever have like a positive reading experience like in school, like books that stuck with you?
Ice Bear (13:42)
Ooh, that's a good question. ⁓
Grizz (13:44)
Like books that you
had to read for a curriculum, were there books that actually stuck with you to this day? Be it elementary, middle school, or high school? I'll leave out college because it's a little different. But just grade school.
Ice Bear (13:58)
Yeah.
⁓ we had to read, ⁓ Siddhartha by Herman Hesse in high school, which I loved. Still, still love that to this day.
Grizz (14:11)
Just
funny because that's one book I've never read.
Ice Bear (14:14)
⁓
We so it not a book but one thing that I did like have assigned in high school that I still like is any e Cummings poems because I always liked authors that were just like Counterculture and he was clearly just like fucking with the system before the system was even thing thing that I'm not following your stupid grammar rules I'm going to pretend my keyboard is a grasshopper
Being jumping around on it, and that's why I'm gonna write my shit so weird I'm like what a bizarre reason to write the way you do. I fully approve of this
Grizz (14:58)
How many did he write? He's cool. Poem I got, a poem. So I have a handful, but as far as poets go, I had to read a lot of Robert Frost for like English classes, and I can't stand Robert Frost. The thing is, he's actually a really good poet.
Ice Bear (15:00)
So how about you? What's popping up in your
Is he the road diverges
in the woods guy? Is that him? Yeah. Fuck you, frog.
Grizz (15:23)
Yeah. He's actually not
a bad poet. But like, it's just, I don't know, man. It's just so, I actually learned a lot when we were forced to dissect the poems, his poems. I learned a lot about poetry with that in class. But it's just, I don't know, man. There's just something about it that just feels so clinical. Maybe it's because of the teachers dissected shit. So maybe that kind of ruined it for me a little bit, but I don't know.
Yeah, but as far as books and they're not even like, they're not life changing books, but books that genuinely stuck with me where I can recount listening to like reading them. Cause the way this class always worked, would read the books during like the downtime and then we would have the chapter thing where it was like, they read along to it. Like they had like the tape, the audio book basically.
that we would read along with. And then the teacher would interject here and there and then we would all talk about it and shit, And that's the way we did it. And then if there was a movie, when we finished the book, it finished all the assignments of the book, we watched the movie and it was double-spot. If there was a movie, right? There wasn't always a But anyways, the books that really stuck with me that I can like remember vividly was,
One was called Daniel's Story, and it was a book about the Holocaust. And that's probably what sparked my 20th century, you forget, fascination when I was little. It followed this kid named Daniel, who his family. Obviously, he was Jews. They were forced into the thing. Before they went to concentration camps, they went to the ghettos. so half the books are like in the ghettos. And it's like...
Ice Bear (16:52)
Mmm.
Grizz (17:14)
You know, the whole gold star thing and all that. it's like the love story that he sees a girl that like he falls in love with a little girl there. They're like young, it's like young teen love. You know what I mean? Kind of think like, think all anime, anime, right? So it's like that it goes there. They go to a concentration camp. They survive it. Like, you know I mean? It's, it's a really good book. It's the only book that I've ever read about like that era that also included like life in the ghettos before.
the box cars and I'll show you kind of stuff. So it's just one that always stuck with me. And like, cause there's just a lot of parts. There was a thing where like they would find broken glass and then like try to shave to try to look kept. So they looked more lively and they would like slap the cheeks so the cheeks can be rosy. So they don't look like they're getting sick to the guards, you know? And then like they would eat water, potato, potato peels, skin soup kind of stuff. And that would get them through.
Ice Bear (17:45)
Mmm.
Grizz (18:12)
And I remember specifically the scene when they, once they got saved and they got food and they were, a lot of people were gorging themselves and like dying because you know, because of the influx of food. So like the dad was getting after him to make sure he only ate a little bit, even though he was hungry kind of stuff. There's just a lot of little things in this stuck with me. Like that one, fucking outsiders was another one that I really liked. And I the outsiders for the first time. After that, like in.
Ice Bear (18:26)
Yeah. ⁓
Hmm. That's fair.
Grizz (18:40)
Because I think we were in sixth grade, so in gym, they always had some dumbass dishes to run. I was doing it for Johnny, you know.
So like that ⁓ in fifth grade was there's a book roll of thunder here my pride and that's like the whole like segregation era book stuff it's a really good it's a really good book yeah those books are ⁓ and then this is it's called touching spirit bear i don't think i read it in like sixth grade or seventh grade basically as a kid he's a little he's a fuck up
Ice Bear (19:07)
okay.
Sold with the bear.
Grizz (19:23)
It's a good book. It's actually a really good book because it's made for young teens. But it's a book where there's a kid, I think his name is Cole, he's not like Indianapolis or Minneapolis some shit like that. He's a fuck up, he like fucks up this kid, he's like bullies kids, fucking beats up this kid to a fucking pulp kind of thing. He's gonna get sent to fucking juvie.
They get them into this program to not send them to juvie. They send them to fucking Alaska. And that's like this wilderness survival thing.
And so basically he has to like, they're basically breaking down his fucking spirit. Cause he's like, I'm not even doing shit you're doing like screw you fucking native American, right? Guy, I ain't gonna listen to your fucking mumbo jumbo shit. And he's like, bet, let's see what the wilderness teaches your ass. Right? And so like, he basically like karate kid, Mr. Miyagi, same on certain stuff. And then after that, like strip them and then give them a knife and push them out into the Alaskan wilderness.
Ice Bear (20:04)
shit.
⁓
Grizz (20:25)
And
so like, it's him, it's him surviving that basically, and to where he has to find his like, totem, right? Like his, like his guiding, his guiding animal. And so touching spare bears basically, and kind of figuring that out. Like, and so it's him fixing his shitty ass life and attitude through grit and near death experienced by surviving in the Alaskan wilderness.
Ice Bear (20:52)
That sounds fantastic. Yeah, that'd be right up my alley. That'd be right up my alley for sure.
Grizz (20:52)
It's a good book. It's a really good book.
And then green eggs and ham.
Ice Bear (21:02)
Green Eggs and Ham is solid. Our boy Theodore Geisel. The Lorax is clearly the best one though.
Grizz (21:10)
You
It really is. He also sent Daniel to the the ghettos. He was pro Daniel in the ghettos.
Ice Bear (21:17)
But what.
Well, the Sneetches, they needed some they needed some people to, you get in. If you want the star on your belly, you got to cap someone.
Grizz (21:26)
You
The cinches were dope. I actually fucking lost cinches.
Ice Bear (21:39)
Yeah, snitches are pretty cool. Yeah, that's good. ⁓
Grizz (21:43)
You know, one of the
things, maybe in a popular opinion real quick, you know the old, the, the Holly Greenstoke Christmas book? Do you remember the cover of the old one?
It's a red cover.
Ice Bear (22:01)
The one I had for the Grinch is actually the one with the gold binding and it was just the hand reaching over and grabbing the ornament. That was the one I remember.
Grizz (22:12)
Interesting. There's one I
always saw like in libraries as a kid. The one I always saw in libraries as a kid all the time, my first experience seeing the Grinch, because I read a little fucking about Dr. Seuss and I was a little kid, was a red cover, white oval in the middle, and it had the Grinch like this, like you know what mean, with fucking Birdman hands, like plotting, and the Grinch was white.
Ice Bear (22:33)
⁓ yeah.
Grizz (22:39)
The Grinch wasn't green, he was just completely white. And so for me, was like, the Grinch is white. And then when I watched the animated Grinch movie, I was like, what the fuck is this guy green, he's white. And so that bothered the shit out of me when I was a kid. But then I really liked the movie, the Jim Carrey movie and the animated movie.
Ice Bear (22:40)
interesting.
Yeah, they're both good. The Grinch is fun. The Grinch is a fun story.
⁓ While you were listing yours, one did pop in my head, another one that we had assigned that I loved. Not only because I like this book, because it introduced me to the series was Ender's Game.
So it's.
Grizz (23:21)
Ender's game
I never jived into, but I've had friends like they're all like a high school thing that like loved it. Absolutely loved it.
Ice Bear (23:31)
So
the original one Ender's Game, in that Ender is young. So I think that's why they assign it to you in high school, because he's a teenager. And it's good, but that one's very much just kind of a sci-fi, acne novel. The next three in that Ender's, they call it the Ender's Quartet. It fast forwards because there's a, spoilers guys, the 50 year old book.
Grizz (23:48)
Mmm.
Ice Bear (24:01)
⁓ They time travel because he gets sent to another planet where the aliens that were attacking Earth in the first thing ⁓ live. And the next three books are just like insane ethical dilemmas. Like it's just nonstop ethical dilemmas. it follows him and his siblings who are just like very briefly mentioned in the first one become like active protagonists in the next few. And
It was the first books I remember thinking like, damn, I don't know what I would do in that situation. Like he's very good at crafting things where like you and I have talked a lot about over the years, how like we're pretty good at seeing both sides of a scenario. And like I would credit that entire series with my ability to look at things like that, because the situations in that series are very like, goddamn, like that's rough either way.
Grizz (24:31)
Mm.
Mm-hmm.
Ice Bear (25:00)
And you can kind of like... Yeah, I can see why a person would make that choice. It seems shitty, but like, I get it.
Grizz (25:09)
Yeah.
Yeah, it's funny, like that sounds like right up my alley, like any like moral ambiguity kind of thing. It's usually something I like really have a leg into.
Ice Bear (25:21)
say
like do cliff notes for Ender's Game and then read the next three. Like the next three are all fantastic.
Grizz (25:33)
Yeah, might. I'm gonna have a lot of like weird.
Ice Bear (25:35)
You an Asmoth guy at all?
like iRobot, Isaac Asimov, that guy.
Grizz (25:45)
I would say no overall. Yeah, no. ⁓ You said I robots at Will Smith out. I ultimately went to fucking what was the other one? I am legend, right? Because he was a legend and like that was like no, but I did read that book. ⁓ But yes, so as long now, because what else did you write? Because that's out of my robot, because I robot I never actually read.
Ice Bear (25:52)
Yeah, just Will Smith. Yeah.
I just know he's prolific. I never read a lot of his stuff, but I know a lot of people like him if they like sci-fi.
Grizz (26:21)
Yeah, did you read the original Iroh? Did you read the ⁓ Ion Legend?
Ice Bear (26:29)
No, but I've heard it's fantastic and that the movie like... Yeah, the movie kind of like ruined it.
Grizz (26:32)
It's absolutely amazing.
absolute
shit and the thing is like I saw the movie before I read the book right and when I first saw the movie I think it's a good movie I like the movie ⁓ my lord I feel like I'm in a freaking music video right now
Ice Bear (26:50)
⁓
You
Grizz (26:55)
I was like, I don't know. But I watched the movie and the movie was great. And I thought it was good. But I heard people like, oh, this shit sucks. And I was like, how can say this movie sucks? It's a good movie. There's touching parts to it. And then I read the book and I was like,
I fucking am bitter about the movie now after reading the book.
Because it's such an amazing prep. It's basically like, so like the whole like, taking out of context with that Nietzsche quote, don't stare in the abyss too long, right? Cause if the abyss stares back at you, like you'll be basically become the monster kind of thing, right? It's basically that, so.
The happens, contagion happens, whatever. The vampire type people come kill humans. Guy's trying to survive, right? Lost one in life. He's killing the vampire type people to a lie. He's killing the vampire society, right? He falls in love with this one girl he finds who's actually like a Blade Daywalker type, who's actually basically a vampire.
Ice Bear (27:47)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (28:08)
done. ⁓
So
So like, so he's, so she's made that he falls in love with all that kind of stuff. She, basically there's a subset of that become day walkers like Blade. And so she gets close to him, right? And so he leads into the whole vampire society, he sees all the stuff. And basically I Am Legend basically becomes that the hands of time have shifted so far.
Ice Bear (28:16)
Basically a vampire.
Grizz (28:45)
to where humans are out the actual society now was vampire society and him surviving trying to protect himself he becomes the fucking boogeyman in the night he becomes
Ice Bear (28:51)
Hmm.
That's right, that's why it's
I am like, yeah.
Grizz (29:00)
Yeah, so he becomes a legend. He's the one like so for his society, like there's this, there's this being that kills us. So the kids are terrified of him because like there's a monster that looks similar to us, but it's different. And he lives on his own. And he's a basic, like a hermit. And if you're caught here, he will kill you and he'll take you right kind of thing. And so he becomes what the vampires were when the vampires first came. Now the vampire society is fully thriving and now he is that monster. And so like that's the book.
Ice Bear (29:20)
Mm-hmm.
That's right.
Grizz (29:31)
That is such a fucking amazing concept. The fact that they didn't do that in the book or the movie makes me hate the movie because the movie by itself, if you don't read the book, it's a good movie.
Ice Bear (29:33)
That is really cool.
Yeah, it's pretty good.
Grizz (29:44)
But knowing the book and seeing all that subplot and seeing all that kind of thing and like what you could do with that makes me, makes me, I don't hate the movie, still good, but it makes me resentful to the people that made the movie.
Ice Bear (29:58)
Sure. Yeah, like
why did you skip the best part of the story?
Grizz (30:04)
Yeah. And cause it went like he was a legend cause he saved humanity with it. And it's like, cool, I guess, right? But like, do you know how much this movie could have stuck out and shined? You know?
Ice Bear (30:10)
Yeah.
⁓
I think that was part of the era when movies were still assuming the audience is dumb as bricks.
Grizz (30:25)
There was a good portion of like what? Late 2000, because what mid 2000s to 2020, I guess, right? Close to like 2016. Or maybe even mid 2000s to now, it got super sterile. Right, like it was either remakes this and that, I guess.
Ice Bear (30:40)
Yeah, I would say...
Yeah, I would say the movie industry from like 2004 to 2020 with with no 21 like up until like right after COVID. Yeah, by and large it was very sterile is the perfect word for it. They're just like let's shit out the things that make profit that we you know minimal effort. People will go see it like lower it.
Grizz (31:06)
Yeah, because nobody,
nobody, yeah, nobody wanted to take a risk, right? Cause it's like, I think the comic book movie universe stuff, like really changed it because it was like, they got for Uber successful, isn't that? So nobody would want to finance anything that wasn't a special thing like those would be. And so everything was remakes, everything was, cause like, you think about movies in the nineties and how fucking out there they were.
Like, I don't see... Do remember that horror movie that was at Event Horizon?
I don't see that movie being made now or in the last 10 years.
Ice Bear (31:43)
No.
No, absolutely not.
Grizz (31:47)
Anything that's just weird that's like, you know what I mean? That's just different. Like, yeah.
Ice Bear (31:51)
Even like, can
you picture silence of the lambs being made now?
Grizz (32:00)
Yeah, sounds a little lame, but it's true. Or like, Brazil, things weird like shit like Brazil, or was it Jacob's Ladder? Like shit like that, you know?
Ice Bear (32:07)
Jake, a perfect
example. Dude, that movie scared the fucking shit out of me when I was a kid. The scene where he has the fever and they're trying to shove him in the tub. Bro, I remember my dad was watching it. I was hiding under a blanket. Why are they drowning him?
Grizz (32:14)
Same. And the thing is like...
Yes.
There's like that scene and then what's that real clinical scene right like where it's like those two scenes are like fucking rough and I remember being a kid but it's all these like crazy IPs that like They don't have any backstory attached to them like I don't see them being made now
Ice Bear (32:55)
No, no. ⁓ The one good thing is I think because of
how many fucking streaming things there are now, I do think you're gonna see a resurgence of like decent independent projects just because like they all wanna have their own like, you know, their own exclusive content. like Amazon has funded a lot of like interesting shit. Like I know we've talked about it before on the podcast, but like Saltburn's
Fucking weird, man. That's a weird fucking movie. And that's an Amazon movie.
Grizz (33:39)
Yeah. I didn't know it was an Amazon.
Ice Bear (33:42)
Yeah.
And like another one that does.
Grizz (33:47)
You know, that is true.
That is true.
Ice Bear (33:52)
Tooby. Tooby funds weird fucking shit.
Grizz (33:55)
To be?
Ice Bear (33:57)
Yeah. Do you know about Tooby?
Toobie is like, if you buy a ro-
If you buy like a Roku or a fire stick, yeah.
Grizz (34:06)
Okay, yeah, yeah,
Yeah, T-U-B-I, right? Yeah.
Ice Bear (34:12)
Yes. Yeah.
Grizz (34:15)
Okay. I've, so I have seen it on smart food, especially like in Airbnb and stuff like that. Like I've seen it, but I've never actually like,
Ice Bear (34:25)
They will fund really weird horror movies and really weird sci-fi movies
Grizz (34:31)
interest.
Ice Bear (34:32)
like butt boy.
Grizz (34:36)
Is that the infamous one where you suck people up his butt?
Ice Bear (34:44)
Yes. Dude, it's not a bad movie. It's not a bad movie. It's a pretty good movie.
Grizz (34:46)
Okay, okay.
That's funny. I can't say shit because like I like the shittiness of like Thanksgiving and then like killer clowns from outer space as a kid. You know what mean? so I can't say nothing about it.
Ice Bear (35:07)
There's something that just came out. And apparently, if you like Thanksgiving and that kind of like campy self-aware horror movie, it's like right in that wheelhouse. think it's like killer. Killer clowns in the field or killer cornfield clown, I don't know, something with clowns.
Grizz (35:27)
I have to look it up, because I love shit like that. I was thinking, that gets me thinking, right? Because I can think of old movies where they're out there, this and that. What's one of the last movies you thought, you watched where it's like that? Where it's different, whether it's where you like the movie. It doesn't have to be the best movie, whatever, but it's like you liked the movie and it was where it's different.
out there and it's like still like you know for your taste good.
Ice Bear (36:03)
⁓ The last one I can remember watching and immediately it felt different and I was like, this is a unique thing. immediately I was like, I like this. It's special. It feels weird. It's hereditary.
Grizz (36:22)
So you already heard is an interesting one. ⁓ I think I went into it super critical already because I heard things about it and then seeing some of the the like ritualistic stuff in my head and then also a little girl, hate the little girl and then it was like watching it again later and then like removing my things that annoyed me about it from it.
Ice Bear (36:42)
Little girl is awful.
Grizz (36:49)
And then like being able to kind of just see the little Easter eggs here and there, I'm like, made me like it more or am I, okay, I understand it now why people like it so much. So Redditary is an interesting to me.
Ice Bear (37:03)
⁓ Another one that came out, I think this year, is 40 Acres. that's a lovely color.
Grizz (37:16)
40 acres. I think I've heard of that.
Ice Bear (37:18)
Yeah, so 40 acres,
40 acres is a, okay, so this is newer. So I'm going to try and not give it all away, but just to give a premise. So it's set in a post-apocalyptic world where famine happened because like all the crops kind of died out. So you have, most people have been wiped out because there's no food left. So
Grizz (37:43)
Damn you, Mal.
Ice Bear (37:48)
Rather than like zombies, have a lot of people that have turned to cannibalism just because they're fucking hungry and they're starving. So they're still normal people, they're, you know, they're just like, they're cannibals. They're willing to eat people. Animals, like, you know, like owls, deer, things like that. They have been affected by the virus that decimated the crops. So the movie follows this one family. It's a ⁓
Grizz (37:55)
Mmm.
Yeah. Yeah.
Ice Bear (38:17)
It's a really cool cast. It's a primarily black and native American cast. ⁓ And they have a farm in Canada and it's just them kind of protecting their land because they had managed to get this amount of land that is free of the virus. So they're still growing food and they can sustain themselves. It's just this really cool like.
small family and kind of extended family defending themselves from this horror that is their plight with the modern virus and stuff,
Grizz (38:49)
Yeah.
Interesting.
Ice Bear (38:57)
Yeah, definitely recommend that.
Grizz (38:57)
So does it to
me, yeah, so to me, like maybe without giving spoilers,
To me that setup gives way for this perfect kind of thing of like a...
Because with zombies, they're people, whatever, but they turn into monsters. So there's this layer of disconnection. But these people are still just people who are just very hungry. So is there this kind of mortal struggle, this ethical struggle between the people and those people? Or is it completely just dehumanized, like these are not people?
Ice Bear (39:19)
Yeah. Yeah.
It's it's not where like they could have taken the ethical dilemma further, but it's certainly far more. The villains are far more human than they are in your typical apocalypse movie.
They're generally evil, because there's also like kind of a ⁓ sidebar white people you might not like it that much. There's kind of weird race element to it.
Grizz (39:59)
Gotcha.
like bandit kind of things.
Ice Bear (40:11)
⁓ By the way, I'm like shooing away a fly and a bee the whole night. I'm not making like weird hand gestures at what I'm saying. Because I realize I'm doing that the whole time.
Grizz (40:11)
Gotcha, okay.
guys, so it's, all right, okay, so I'm glad I like knowing that, cause like when there's stuff like when it's like, where it's like obviously on the nose, someone's like, ⁓ but going into it and knowing it, I'm like, okay, I can like not like put that apart, cause like when stuff's like two on the nose, when you know who's directing it, or you know what mean, where I'm like, ⁓ all right, go like, you know.
Ice Bear (40:46)
Yeah. Yeah.
Grizz (40:50)
It's going to get sold thing, but the premise is awesome. It reminds. Yeah.
Ice Bear (40:50)
⁓ It's not bad. It's
not like, no, I don't think anyone's going to be offended unless you're just like. Yeah.
Grizz (40:59)
Yeah.
Ice Bear (41:03)
It's worth watching.
Grizz (41:04)
Yeah.
It reminds me of a did you ever watch that, that one series of like love death and robots.
Ice Bear (41:14)
I've heard a lot about it, I've never seen it. The art looks cool.
Grizz (41:19)
Well, thing with it is that all the art on all the episodes are different. Like it's not like it's it's episodic. doesn't it's not this continuous thing. It's not like Black Mirror either where like the text, the same to kind of link it together. It's it's basically just these standalone stories each episode. Right. And they're like dark. They're crazy. They're cool. They're like you everything from like this boot loop thing of this
man trying to like kill this woman. You have things from like alien monsters being put into fight clubs where they're actually like, you know what I mean? Like you have, it's all this crazy thing, but there's just one episode where it's like the space farm and it's like in a terrarium type thing, right? Like where the glass dome is containing the atmosphere. So they're able to like farm in the farm hand, their old range hands.
but they're getting into these fricking metal gear looking robot things and they're fighting the fucking aliens to try to protect their family and their farm. It's random shit, it's weird, but it's fucking great.
Ice Bear (42:29)
Damn, that sounds good. That sounds very good.
Grizz (42:31)
I mean, this one kind of reminds me of that.
Because I think it's like every episode is different. Like it's one of those that's great because you can watch an episode and then just do whatever else later, watch another episode and you're not like ever missing anything because it's its own standalone thing, each one.
Ice Bear (42:46)
do like when series do that. That's always nice when you can put it down and like not feel like I gotta watch the whole thing this weekend.
Grizz (42:54)
Yeah. So it's a really great one. I think it's really good to watch because of that.
But it reminds me of, the form you're saying, it reminds me of that episode specifically. Because it's, maybe it's this family trying to protect their space farm from the alien scourge kind of thing. And it's really good.
but yeah, it's funny because I was thinking when I asked the question, I was thinking of a specific movie, but I think of the latest one, did you have frame rate like the most recent one? And it changed my, the movie, because I watched one with the tiger that kind of was like, this is really cool. ⁓ I don't remember the name of the movie. It's,
Ice Bear (43:16)
Mm-mm-mm.
Happy Gilmore 2.
Grizz (43:42)
actually a phenomenal movie. We'll talk about that next episode. But, but Dakota Fanning is in this movie.
Ice Bear (43:45)
Ha
The sixth set.
Grizz (43:55)
as an adult.
no, but also I got the tire to watch Man on Fire, which is like probably my favorite Denzel movie. And it's like, it's my favorite Denzel movie of all time. ⁓ Yeah, my favorite. ⁓ no, it's probably tied to be honest. They were then Man on Fire. That movie made me love Dakota Fanning too, because I felt just her and it's fucking great.
Ice Bear (44:06)
That's a really good Denzel movie.
Hmm.
Grizz (44:28)
But yeah, Bamanifier and then the next one, the other one is, it's an older one, but fucking, hold on. It's not called Time, it's called...
my God. Falling. Falling.
Ice Bear (44:51)
That sounds really familiar. Does it have kind of like a horror movie font on the cover? Like really thin letters, kind of like scratchy?
Grizz (45:02)
Yeah, so came out in 1998. Yeah, and Hobbs is... I'm gonna do... Fuck, man, this movie's so fucking good. Okay. Fallen... Dead to Washington, 1998. The start of the movie as the bad guy is fucking Stabler from fucking SVU. Right? He's the bad guy. Right? So, I don't know the guy's name, but he's Stabler from SVU. ⁓
The premise of the movie is he is being, then the Washington's character watched, this is literally the first five minutes of this without spoilers, it was also came out in 1998. you know, but yeah. So it's basically stable serial killer getting put to death, right? penalty.
Ice Bear (45:49)
Yep, you're past the window. You're allowed to spoil the whole thing.
Grizz (46:07)
The person that arrested him is Hobbs, is Denzel Washington. Denzel at the death watches him. The person, Saylor was possessed by a demon basically, right? And the way the demon transfers is by touch kind of thing. And he's forsaken. He's playing Denzel's character. And so the movie is the...
Ice Bear (46:27)
Yeah.
I have seen this, yep.
Grizz (46:34)
Movie is Denzel against the Demon basically, who just changes by cut, right? Like, such a good fucking movie.
Ice Bear (46:37)
Yeah, I have sick dude.
Denzel is in a lot of good shit.
She's in a lot of really good movies.
Grizz (46:50)
And
it sounds
He deserves all the accolades he gets.
Ice Bear (46:55)
He does. He really does. Man, that is a good one. I think my favorite is probably still. fuck, this is tough.
It's probably still the original equalizer.
Grizz (47:11)
Remember the things.
Yeah, that's good. It's a good one. The thing is for me is like Dendel bag is like action stuff's good. But Dendel's bag is where it's like super serious too. Right. And so for me Fallen is that. ⁓ But the demonologist stuff kind of really got me like those really into it. was younger, but the movie that captures that perfectly to me is Man on Fire.
Ice Bear (47:45)
What about is it John Q? Is that the one where his kid's dying and he has to like get the money?
Grizz (47:48)
It's.
I believe so.
Ice Bear (47:56)
That's another. ⁓ flight is really good. Where is the pilot on the coat problem?
Grizz (48:06)
I totally, man, I forgot about that movie, like the existence. Yeah.
Ice Bear (48:14)
Okay, we often talk about telling each other stuff after the episode. Please when we're done, remind me to tell you a story about flight.
Grizz (48:16)
What?
Alright, random, maybe a hot take, I don't know. ⁓ I'll remember that though. Thoughts on training day?
Ice Bear (48:26)
Okay. Okay.
⁓ Honestly, it's, you know how I feel about training day the same way I feel about Scarface. There's a few scenes in it that I understand it and I like the memes, but overall I don't like the movie that much.
Grizz (48:49)
Inch is okay.
Same. See, I think that does character that was great because obviously. So here's the thing where I'm conflicted with training day is training is one of those movies for me, I guess when I was younger, I watched when I was younger. And then so like, guess that a part of that stuck with me until now is that it's a very, was a very uncomfortable movie for me to watch. Right.
because of like, Dan Does character, like you're supposed to not like him, right? You're supposed to, he's not a good guy. He's a fucking piece of shit. Like you're supposed to like feel all those things. And so I never like, watching movies is super uncomfortable for me to watch. Like when I first saw the clips of when I was younger, then when I got older and like, that means he's doing a fucking perfect job. Cause I watched it again, like later, like, oh, I'm like, you know, And I'm like,
Ice Bear (49:38)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Grizz (49:56)
It's a good movie. like, he acts the part fucking amazingly. And then obviously like the whole scenes like the King Kong thing on the out whatever, right? Like good scenes and all that. But still, I guess part of my like when I first watched it, like I still carry this level of like uncomfortableness of like watching the movie. So like I still genuinely don't like the movie.
Ice Bear (50:03)
Mm-hmm.
You know, the other, it's funny you mentioned the King Kong scene. So that's obviously, I think, the main scene that everyone thinks of from that movie, right? I have probably watched, between watching the movie itself and just watching that clip and versions of that clip and memes of that clip, literally dozens of times, I think is a fair number. And every time...
Grizz (50:32)
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Ice Bear (50:50)
I'm shocked at the amount of spit that flies out of his mouth. It's always more than I remember. Ding! Ding! Cog! It's just like globbing like holy shit man. How did you have that much saliva in your mouth?
Grizz (50:59)
God, shut up. ⁓
It's so good. This trip. I never thought about that to be honest.
Ice Bear (51:14)
Every time I'm like, holy shit, it's way more than I remember.
Grizz (51:20)
So funny.
Ice Bear (51:21)
Denzel is basically the original talk to a girl.
Grizz (51:27)
That's true. You know what's also true? Because of Denzel is that because of us reminiscing about that beautiful chocolate man, we didn't introduce our second beer.
Ice Bear (51:40)
Yeah, all right, what you got over there?
Grizz (51:44)
This one, be it time, be it alcohol, be it whatever, I am not sure if this beer was one I bought in preparation for Tubi Tubi or a remnant of a four pack I bought for old Tubi Tubi.
Ice Bear (52:03)
Hmm.
Grizz (52:06)
So I am mildly certain that this is something I've had before on this show.
So because of that, I am offering this as my next beer with the caveat of may have had already, but after drinking more than half of it, it is a fantastic beer. And I wonder if I have had it, if my rating is gonna match it or if me being thirsty in comparison to the first beer is gonna change it. So this is gonna be interesting. This right here,
And maybe I'm just homesick too. Maybe I'm just homesick because right here is from the beautiful Dallas, Texas. This is my main man, Celestial Beer Works. Second name in. Martin House, slightly more, but Celestial is up there. Yeah, I love both equally. All right. It's brewed in packaging Dallas, Texas, Celestial Beer Works. This right here is a 10 % triple leaf.
Ice Bear (52:58)
Martin House. ⁓
Grizz (53:13)
called technical skill set, this calculators. It has strata, which I love, galaxy hops and strata hop hatch.
Ice Bear (53:17)
Yes, we have had this.
Grizz (53:27)
It is a beautiful beer.
Ice Bear (53:33)
Yeah, you have had that and you liked it before.
Grizz (53:34)
that has been nothing.
And I liked it because I'm leaning a minus. ⁓ I'm leaning a minus is the floor.
Ice Bear (53:40)
Yeah, you like it a lot.
I feel like you gave it an A and I feel like you said A minus is the floor before. So I think you're a consistent bear.
Grizz (53:56)
This is the Dan Wood beer.
Ice Bear (53:58)
All right. So over in my over in my neck of the woods.
Grizz (54:00)
Damn good beer. This beer is as good
as... chow down, chow down, chow down.
Ice Bear (54:05)
We got another Flying Monkeys. This time it's an Amber Lager. And in good bearsync form, let me tell you. Algorithmic runs of toasty malt, sweetness back acoustic flares of lemony laurel and floral haltertuer hops. Again, that's haltertuer hops. Or I could be saying it wrong. In a shimmering body of marigold light, because your brain is already 85 % song lyrics. This is...
raving
Grizz (54:44)
Thank you.
I'm
Ice Bear (54:58)
This is also very good. ⁓
Grizz (54:59)
Fire monkeys. ⁓
Ice Bear (55:03)
They just like every can they make I would I would get is like a hoodie
Grizz (55:03)
Canadian Martin House.
Ice Bear (55:11)
All of their can art reminds me of- it all reminds me of Bape shit.
Grizz (55:12)
That's right.
yeah! I can do that.
Ice Bear (55:21)
Which by the way, that is the one brand like the one like luxury, like, you know, like high end brand that I always wanted as a kid. And I was just like, I just can't, I can't fucking justify $600 for a hoodie. I'm not going to do it, but God damn did I love the color throbs of things they made.
Grizz (55:43)
that's fair what's funny is like when you say shit like that I'm like yeah I can totally get that but when I think of like articles that I have I'm like like my pair of like
Ice Bear (55:45)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (55:57)
The boost I wear like $300 to $400 when I think about it and I'm like, God damn, that's a of
I think it's like, I think they're like 300 bucks. Or I'm like tripping. They're riding Iron Rangers, like one of my favorite pairs of boots of all time, like, I mean they're s-
Ice Bear (56:11)
Yeah, they're probably 300.
Grizz (56:17)
Let's see, Red Wings.
Probably talk to me while visiting. Yeah. Where's he going? Yep. 350.
Ice Bear (56:29)
BAM, BOYS! NAH-YUM!
Grizz (56:32)
Yeah.
And the thing is, like, I had those boots for years. Beautiful. love them. Every bit of them. Amazing boots. Great.
Ice Bear (56:37)
Hold on. You didn't tell me you're showing
off your drug dealer phone. We're both showing off drug dealer phones. Who of us can do that?
Grizz (56:45)
I ain't
got my, I'm on my phone right now. I'm on my, what was it? yeah, ⁓ my birthday present tablet right here.
Ice Bear (56:50)
you're on your drug dealer tablet.
Very nice.
Very nice. Shit.
Grizz (57:05)
Yeah, that's... But yeah, I know. I always talk about, I always run this thing of like, is it really? Cause you know, I have like some expensive watches and boots and stuff. like, well yeah, but they get wear. I use them all the time. They don't last me forever. When I think of like that compared to like a name brand thing, that's like...
a lot of money, but I'm like, it's just fast fashion. It's not even a mean shit anyway. Like, that's stupid. But also in the same breath, I'm like, okay, I'm gonna buy these pairs of boots. That's fucking $350, which is crazy when like you can buy a hundred dollar pair of boots, they're gonna be great, you know?
Ice Bear (57:32)
Mm.
Yeah. Dude, that that being said certain things that I'm willing to spend on boots are for sure one of them.
Cause like, like a lot of the like people that I respect the most in terms of work ethic across the board, they all seem to think that like protect your feet and protect your back. So they'll spend money on a mattress and they'll spend money on good boots. And I think those are reasonable expenditures, especially if you're walking around a lot.
Grizz (57:57)
Yeah.
Yeah, to me,
with
Yeah. Cause to me it's funny cause like for me it's like, agree with the mattress thing. ⁓ boots, the only thing I think it's like willing where and like is over the amounts worth it is boots. I mean, you know, but a boots of watch in a coat are the only things to me. makes sense for like an incredible amount of money.
Ice Bear (58:43)
Mm.
Grizz (58:50)
Everything else I'm like, well, ooh, and a fucking hat. Like you get a good like open road or a good stats and that's gonna put you back like three to 600 bucks. That's just gonna last forever. And so those things, so boots, hat, coats, and like, I would say for your luxury thing to watch.
Ice Bear (59:04)
Yeah, that's, yeah, that's true.
Grizz (59:19)
but watch this for properties this year. like, all right then.
Did you ever wear watches before like your Fitbit stuff and all that? No? Yeah.
Ice Bear (59:29)
now. What
I never I never I was never really into any sort of like watch or or jewelry ball. Like I don't I get it. Like I can totally wrap my head around it. I don't think it's a dumb thing. ⁓ But I've pretty much since like college, I've generally had some sort of like fitness tracker because I am curious like how much I'm moving. I want to make sure like if I'm I do like knowing like if it's like 6pm.
Grizz (59:56)
Yeah.
Ice Bear (59:58)
And I look and I'm like, oh shit, I've only moved like five miles. Like I feel like a piece of shit and then I'll like go do something. Um, but like I've never felt the need to get like a Seiko or a Rolex or anything. But like when I look at them, I'm like, I see why people like them. I get it.
Grizz (1:00:18)
Yeah, I'm very much like, you know, have Seiko's and have the things like, like watches, quality watches. That's probably the one thing with me, like over that or like, you know, having a durable G shock and stuff where I've been like struggling with, like, cause I have my smartwatch for all the tracking stuff. And I like all of that, but also at the same time, I've always been like, you know what I mean? Like there's just the, there's just air of difference. And I'm like,
It kind of where I'm thinking, should I go from a small watch to go back to my normal watch collection? Cause I don't want any of them anymore. And then just get like a Fitbit and then just get like a Fitbit. Like I've been like going back in that cause I'm like, I have it and I'm kind of hoping that's more of like, maybe if I can get a case that resembles a watch that I'm used to wearing, maybe, maybe that'll change it. But yeah.
Ice Bear (1:00:57)
Mm.
Grizz (1:01:16)
I've been going through that identity crisis as of late.
Ice Bear (1:01:20)
Yeah. Now the thing you could do, I don't know if you'd consider this option. You go back to your nice designer watches that you already have. They make a lot of wearables for fitness tracking that are rings.
Grizz (1:01:38)
Ooh, that is here now.
Ice Bear (1:01:40)
You could get one of those.
Grizz (1:01:43)
That's actually very time consuming.
Ice Bear (1:01:45)
Yeah, there's a bunch of ⁓ Fitbit-esque rings that do all the same shit. You can get the heart rate, you can get the steps, you can get all that stuff in a ring.
Grizz (1:01:57)
interesting. That I like.
Ice Bear (1:02:00)
Yeah, because I've I've actually kind of considered that one thing that drives me nuts about this. Is because like obviously my job, I'm moving, I'm moving stuff around a lot like furniture, and sometimes we're going through like narrow hallways and like to get to get a good grip where I'm like not worried about compromising the integrity of whatever, because, you know, sometimes I'm moving around like a $5000 sofa. I don't want to get hurt. And I'll bump my wrist on the wall and I'm always like cat.
Grizz (1:02:02)
Yeah, I'll... I'll...
Ice Bear (1:02:27)
Damn it, I look at the watch and I'm like, scratch it or scuff it up. Luckily, like this has pretty good glass on it. But if I had a ring, I wouldn't have to worry about that.
Grizz (1:02:37)
Yeah, very true.
Yeah, that's also another thing. if I break, mean, I have, luckily the tiger got me like a case for it. I used to, had a rough brain on him, the glass was still exposed. Luckily the tiger got me a full case for it. Cause I cracked the case already. So if my case was on, I would have cracked the watch and same thing, right? Cause I get in my, you know,
Ice Bear (1:02:51)
Yeah.
Shit.
That's how I feel. That's how I feel about
my phone, because this is the first phone I've ever had with a screen protector and I crack the shit out of this thing.
Grizz (1:03:11)
That's how I got my phone. I cracked the shadow of the projector for the camera. But yeah, but yeah, so I guess. So that won't save me at least like with. A regular watch. I cracked the I cracked the glass or whatever, like, you know, to get like the sapphire, it's going to cost me 3040 5060 bucks, spending 30 to 50 bucks, 60 bucks, spending on or I go.
Ice Bear (1:03:14)
Okay.
Yeah.
Grizz (1:03:39)
But I can always get that just changed and it's Right? I mean, now as opposed to like a smartwatch, I'm kind of fucked and it's going to be a whole warranty thing. You know what I mean? So that's one thing I've been kind of going, but at the same time with all that, I'm loving my smartwatch at the same time. So it's, it's always.
Ice Bear (1:03:42)
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, man, I-
I know if I could not have one anymore. There's a lot of things I really, really like about it.
Grizz (1:04:10)
Yeah, it's one of those where it's like
What got me thinking about it was when I was coming up here and I was packing up my watch collection. I'm like, fuck man, I love all these watches. I haven't wanted them in so long. You know what I mean? And then, and I'm this one now, I wear this one every day. And you know, it's very plain, but like, you know, it is nice being able to see the date, the weather, my steps, being able to like control everything and see texts and stuff. it's, it's like, it's kind of hard to beat.
Ice Bear (1:04:23)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.
For me,
the biggest one for me is the fact that you can walk away from your desk at work and leave your phone in the top drawer or whatever and you still get the buzz on your wrist and then you're like, I have a text. I need to go check on whoever.
Grizz (1:04:59)
Yeah. Yeah, that's huge. That's where I'm like saying these, right? So it's like, ⁓ I'm a bitch.
Ice Bear (1:05:08)
And I don't know about you, but the I don't know if you have your set to the same thing, but I have mine where like if I'm inactive for like longer than an hour, it gives me a little and it's like, hey, you're being a lazy piece of shit. And I'm like, OK, I'm being a lazy piece of shit. ⁓ I'll start I'll start doing stuff because especially on my day off. Like I can get into like a habit of just like rotting and I'm like, all right. All right, time to get up.
Grizz (1:05:10)
Have a good one.
Yeah.
Yeah, so
I'm ⁓
And so I go from 10,000 to 15,000 but my day off is like 1,000.
Ice Bear (1:06:02)
Yeah, that's good. That's very good.
Grizz (1:06:08)
And I'm like, I'm go, fuck this, my data not do shit. And even when I plan to do shit, and I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna do shit.
Ice Bear (1:06:20)
I'm really curious to see now that you're there, if you move around a little bit more.
Grizz (1:06:27)
I think I will, because one, I'm not driving to work anymore. I'm walking to work.
Ice Bear (1:06:31)
Yeah.
Yeah. But Seattle is just a very walkable city and the weather is always nice.
Grizz (1:06:38)
Yeah.
Yeah, so I even see even like the jizzling things or what I'm looking at right now is finding a decent raincoat that I can just pack away in my like bag. Then just always have or need be.
Ice Bear (1:06:55)
Yeah, just get a poncho,
Grizz (1:06:56)
But overall though, like
that's what I was thinking, like getting out a punch up. Just like a dirt over anything.
Ice Bear (1:07:01)
Yeah, just get a poncho. That's perfect.
Yep, that's the way to go.
Grizz (1:07:09)
So they're like...
That's a big, honestly, and then like the National Forest that's south of Seattle is fucking insane. I mean, granted, a lot of it's because of the mountain, like, but I was, when I was driving to Seattle again, because I did the, from Dallas to Seattle two days. Like I went from Seattle, I went from Dallas to Utah, like to Moab. It took me about 15, 16 hours.
15, 16 hours. ⁓
and then Moab to Seattle another 56 hours. So by the time I got to like, I was in Washington, I'm like, fuck, why do I do this? So I'm going through the fucking national forest on like the math and stuff and I'm just following the flow of traffic. What the fuck is she doing 70 to 80 the entire time? All right. And so I'm doing the same. But like I was still in that motherfucker for like an hour.
Ice Bear (1:08:10)
Yeah.
Grizz (1:08:23)
And it's like, forget how dense that shit is. Or like how winding those roads are. Cause it was like, all right, I'm in Washington finally. I'm so close. But it's like, was well over an hour doing 70 to 80. And still like not out of the forest.
Ice Bear (1:08:47)
Yeah. Yeah.
Grizz (1:08:50)
It's wild.
Ice Bear (1:08:52)
yeah, there's a couple of places we gotta go. There's a couple of places you must see. It's mandatory fun.
and we'll have some guerilla beers when we do it.
⁓ but the, probably, I think the best drive a person can take if they're in Washington is looping to the other part, the other side of the Puget sound and going up by like Port Angeles, Port Orchard, all of, all of that, when you're in the Cascades, because you're like, you're looking off to the, to like the Northeast and you see the Puget sound, which is like a very, like you've probably seen it at this point. It's a very deep blue. It's like a very pretty color of water. And then off to your West.
Grizz (1:09:21)
⁓
Ice Bear (1:09:40)
have the mountains and like any time of year they still have snow caps on the top. And then just everything else is just this insane fucking vivid green from how much it rains. And that's just like, I think that's the best drive on the planet. I've never seen anything I liked.
And the roads are windy and they're hilly and they're fun.
Grizz (1:10:00)
I'm so ready for the-
Yeah, I am so ready for these guerilla chippy-toobies.
Ice Bear (1:10:11)
Yeah, it'll be a good time.
gonna be a good
Grizz (1:10:16)
You know,
I think this is a nice christening for
It's gonna be fucking awesome. It really is.
It's gonna be great.
which will figure out, think, for posterity this, we're at right over an hour. I think it's a good, I think we're at a good stopping point, don't you think?
Ice Bear (1:10:39)
I think we are, yes sir.
Grizz (1:10:43)
Alright, what are we going as far as ratings?
Ice Bear (1:10:48)
Let me finish it, I'll let you know.
Grizz (1:10:53)
I think mine was too good not to finish.
Ice Bear (1:11:01)
Quantum hugs.
B minus
Grizz (1:11:07)
⁓
Ice Bear (1:11:07)
⁓
raving loop computer music B- they were both good they were solidly
Grizz (1:11:16)
Alright alright alright.
Booey Beer Cove, that is your real name. Taller Booey.
B plus, above average, good beer, good beer. Maybe a B, maybe a diversity, but I'm comfortable giving you a B plus, so Oregon.
Ice Bear (1:11:31)
Nice.
Very nice.
Grizz (1:11:44)
don't treat me wrong when I go visit you later. I'll take that shit away, I'll take that B plus away. But this one, my boys in Dallas, Texas, Celestial Beer Works, technical skill set, this is an A.
Ice Bear (1:11:47)
Good job, Oregon.
Grizz (1:12:01)
You may be nostalgic and miss home very quickly. Fantastic beer. You're amazing. Watch our closing statements for this episode. Big Tex forever.
Ice Bear (1:12:11)
Next forever.
Thanks, Graham.