Grizz (00:31)
was preemptively doing it. Hold on, on, hold on, hold on. No! All right.
Ice Bear (00:32)
⁓ one. One. Two.
Just fumbling immediately. Seven. Six. ⁓ One. Two. Skele-de-le-de.
Honestly, a good happy accident. think that's a better way to start with just pure fucking chaos.
Grizz (01:03)
dropped shit everywhere.
Ice Bear (01:04)
just fumble everything no sense in having a well-run show why start now why start now
Grizz (01:14)
It ain't ever happening.
Not ever, boys.
Ice Bear (01:17)
⁓ man, this smells good. I'm excited. I was excited. I'm now exceedingly excited. I have high hopes. It's been much too long. And we have things to discuss and beers to try.
What do you have over there in your neck of the woods? Oh, that looks nice.
Grizz (01:41)
Nice clear boy. This
is a, this is a classic in the sense of normally we have some, I normally have some pizzazz and have all those other kinds of stuff. But this right here is going to just be a regular roll. Eeper from ⁓ postdoc brewing.
This IPA right here is...
Here we go, you ready for this? There's not a lot of information on this. Actually, you know what? This is the most transparent beer I've ever seen in my life. Right here, the most transparent beer I've ever seen in my life. This is Redacted.
Ice Bear (02:09)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
damn. no! We know nothing about it.
Grizz (02:24)
This is
no, this is very transparent. This is this podcast, Brewering Redacted. IPA says we brewed this beer with our friend. Okay, we brewed this beer with our blank friend and former U.S. Marine Sergeant Josh Folmer using Redacted, Unique Blend Redacted to support Josh's Redacted nonprofit, Send It Society with notes of Redacted, Redacted and Redacted.
fairly redacted with a redacted finish, moderately redacted and redacted redacted. Be sure to redacted and enjoy redacted with a plenty of redacted redacted exclamation.
Ice Bear (03:04)
I'm almost more intrigued than I would be if I knew anything about it. I really like this. Sometimes you just want to hide all the information possible. Is it even a beer? Maybe it's just a bottle of OJ.
Grizz (03:14)
for the greater good.
Ice Bear (03:20)
All right. Well, we're getting your first thoughts. I will now introduce this bad boy. You'll notice the beer vessel is back in action.
Grizz (03:29)
big bye
Ice Bear (03:30)
the big bear bear energy if you will. So this
This is exciting for a number of reasons. So do you remember a little while back in recent history, there was a trend of ⁓ who would you pick in the woods, the man or the bear? And I think honestly, if people were better, or the pig? ⁓ man, bear, pig, fuck. I haven't seen South Park in a long time.
Grizz (03:52)
or the pig.
Man Bear Pig.
I hear it's still good, but I'm not convinced. I'm not sure. I'm just scared with all the stuff from the Utes.
Ice Bear (04:10)
You think you think we're gonna feel too old too many zoom zooms too much zoom zoom humor
Grizz (04:15)
I don't even know if it's going to be that I like I and I hope this is not the case because again, I haven't watched it in fucking years. So this is not necessarily a thing on them, but it's more of like. You know, when people that aren't with it still feel like they are with it, they can be with it.
Ice Bear (04:36)
⁓ like people that say hip to the drive.
Grizz (04:39)
Yeah, but like not when they're cool, right? Because I say that.
Ice Bear (04:42)
Like, like, like,
like when I say cap, is that what the youth say?
Fah! That? Is that it? Did I do it? Did I do it? Did I make it weird yet?
Grizz (04:51)
Bye!
No,
I think that's actually perfect. But it's more of that or it's like out of touch humor, but like not in like a not in a. Correct, right, or like or where something that was like the pinnacle of TV comedy isn't anymore. And that's what I'm really worried about, because I guess, you know, Like, because like because Family Guy was like that, I remember.
Ice Bear (05:09)
self-aware kind of way.
Mm.
Yeah.
like it fell too far.
Grizz (05:28)
for years, like then we got Solarius and then like, I don't know, at some point it was just like, it getting a little like rough.
Ice Bear (05:30)
Yeah.
From
what I hear, that's another one that's like back. I have heard that recent seasons are actually good again, because there was a definite definitive drop off where it was unwatchable.
Grizz (05:47)
Yeah, and so that's truly what I'm kind of worried about, especially with like something as amazing as South Park was for us. You know what mean?
Ice Bear (05:54)
Yeah,
no. shit. Well, you know what? I, I don't remember what my segue was, so I'm just going to say I'm excited for this beer. This is a double IPA. This is a 7.5 and this is called Forest Runner.
Grizz (06:06)
I am.
I love the camera for that one.
Ice Bear (06:17)
Me too, I like this little wolf. I like him zooming through his birch tree forest. Legend says a phantom known as the forest runner roams the woods when the trilliums bloom. We brewed this double EPA to capture its wild spirit. Tasting notes, orange, melon, tropical. 30 bitterness units from Huntsville, Ontario, Canvas Brewing. It smells great. I'm very excited for it.
And after all the experimentation in recent weeks and months, I'm just ready for a nice IPA again.
Grizz (06:52)
That's fair. It's a great color. So like when you see that in your tea, double and see like how like deep the color is and makes me realize like how little we drink regular IPA's. Cause it looks very thin and like, you know.
Ice Bear (07:03)
Yeah.
That's like, I've been going through this phase where for whatever reason, just I'm a victim of advertising. I've been enjoying way more Coors Lights than a person should. I have no business doing it. But every now and again, I pour it out of the can and I'm like, this is water. It's so light. It's crazy to look at a lager. Like they are wild looking. Or no, is Coors Light a Pilsner or a lager? Pilsner.
Grizz (07:24)
Yeah.
Yeah, again.
Yeah. It's like a banquet and like course banquets. I'll drink all day. You know, special place in my heart. But I went, didn't not this last week because was sick with the plague. But. Before leading up to that. Managed to get my hands on some nice old feeling a little homesick, so was drinking a lot of shiners because we got him all here in the PNW and it was glorious.
Ice Bear (07:55)
Mmm.
Well done.
Yeah.
Grizz (08:01)
It's nostalgia bait in all the best ways possible. It's pretty damn great.
Ice Bear (08:09)
Yeah. That's kind of like if I ever see anything from Kona Brewing, I would probably buy it just for the nostalgia. I don't like them. I don't think there's very many that are great, but just to be like, yeah, okay. Takes me back.
Grizz (08:16)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
You know,
so not, do you have a brewery that like you like, or you want to like, but you just don't think that you think their beers are mid at best or like, cause I have a very, I have a brewery that I know for sure that like, I wish was better because I love the art and like everything about them. ⁓
Ice Bear (08:46)
⁓ yeah,
I do. ⁓ back in Salisbury, Evo, like the right, right across the house from us. Like we could walk to that one and they had one or two that were good, but the majority of their lineup is mid or bad. And I re I really wanted to like, cause it's cool concept. Like it's a small town. There's no reason for a brewery that size to be there and they have good food and the tap room's cool. Like it's, it's a good concept. I want them to do well.
Grizz (08:54)
Mm.
Mmm.
Mm.
Yeah.
Ice Bear (09:16)
But yeah, just most of their beers were not my thing.
Grizz (09:20)
Not
great. Yeah, damn. That's always that's always like the sad thing, I guess.
Ice Bear (09:26)
And I think that got magnified by just the sheer amount of small breweries in that region. Cause you're also competing with fucking dogfish head, which is phenomenal.
Grizz (09:32)
Mmm.
Dogfish is fantastic for
a national like brewery, like one that's like mainstream. Yeah. Dogfish had to the fucking the 16 minutes. Right. I love the 90 minute, the 90 minute I was getting. Um, and then again, the 120 120 can be a little rough when it ages, when it ages, it's like, um, how is it like when it, when it ages.
Ice Bear (09:41)
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
Grizz (09:59)
The more it ages, because I've had the benefits of ⁓ having it for like, you're old, two years old, three years old. I think the longest one I had was four. ⁓
Ice Bear (10:06)
Yeah. Yeah.
Fucking moonshine at that point.
Grizz (10:13)
Yeah. Like
obviously it's like boozy, but the more it ages, the whiskey barrel stuff comes out and like those caramel notes come out way more. So it gets sweet as shit. And so it's like super boozy, super sweet. And then like a beer. like it's not everybody's cup of tea for that, but the 90 minute doctor's that's great. That's sea quench one, whichever the salt culture, whatever the hell it is. Like that one's good too. I like that one. I think doctors that's great. One. Yeah.
Ice Bear (10:19)
Yeah.
Mm.
Yeah. Yeah. But that's just another one where the food's good there too.
Grizz (10:43)
to like
Ice Bear (10:43)
Yeah.
Grizz (10:44)
one that's, I don't know you seen the logo of it, like I saw the logo before I ever went there for like years. that an old stove brewery?
Ice Bear (10:54)
Old stove.
Grizz (10:55)
pretty sure it's alt stuff. I'm pretty sure that's the name. I went there not so long ago with the tiger.
Ice Bear (10:58)
Old stove.
Interesting.
I w it sounds familiar, but I can't really place it. Where is this at? Is this up there in Washington?
Grizz (11:12)
Yeah, so but this logo is so the logo is usually side by here it is. Here's the logo if you can see it.
Ice Bear (11:22)
Yeah,
let's see. Okay. Like the logo. I'm not remembering this. if I know it, I'm...
Grizz (11:27)
Yeah. So I remember seeing this. ⁓
Cause I remember seeing that logo before I came over here. Right. so I had a lot of the beers I went on to visit and like two of them. liked every other one was like, some were rough and the other ones are like easily forgettable. ⁓
Ice Bear (11:45)
Mm.
Yeah, that's
a bummer.
Grizz (11:53)
But the one for me, and I love their art and I love like their things is the Alaskan brewing. The ones that have like the husky and the wolf and the bear and all that stuff. And it's like, they're not bad. I, I've had like four of them and they're not bad and they're not great or good. They're like just easily forgettable. They're, they're yeah, they're, they're not, they're good.
Ice Bear (12:02)
⁓ yeah.
I a polar bear one. Yeah.
⁓ man, that's disappointing. I was really hoping I was gonna love him.
Grizz (12:22)
They, if the choice was a regular Sierra Nevada and one of those, the husky up here, I'd pick, I'll pick the Alaskan. But if it's like, if it's like, yeah, yeah. Yeah. If it was the Sierra Nevada, torpedo, I'd probably pick the torpedo. Yeah. Like, like it's just very mid and like, I love their logo. I love like the husky are the welfare, just all the different, the animal stuff. And it's like the monochrome.
Ice Bear (12:32)
Okay, so then they're not bad. They're just not great.
Interesting. Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (12:52)
It's cool. I love it. It's just one more like I wish I liked their beers more.
Ice Bear (12:53)
Yeah.
Does it say, do you know off the top of your head what part of Alaska they're in? Like are they Juneau or Fairbanks or Anchorage?
Grizz (13:08)
Let's look that up
right now. Let's see.
Alaskan.
Ice Bear (13:20)
Speaking of Alaskan, while you're looking this up, did I ever tell you that I was like, well, Juno, okay. I think I was doing a school project or something, but I was like very old. And I found out my dad randomly was like, he worked in Alaskan like fish canneries on like the Aleutian Island chain for like a long time. Like, I was just like, wait, when was it? Cause like every time I think I have his history piece together, I'm like.
Grizz (13:25)
Juno. Yeah.
Really?
Ice Bear (13:49)
know you're in Lanai, know you're in the Philippines, you're in India. And then like in my head I'm like, yeah, he's just like right to like Montana after that. But then he's always like, ⁓ I was in Greece for like a year. And he's like, yeah, I worked in Alaskan fishery, fish canneries for like, I'm like, what? Like when, when did this happen?
Grizz (14:06)
Your
dad's like the life of pie.
Ice Bear (14:11)
The man has lived nine lifetimes.
Grizz (14:16)
Yeah, because probably because just from what I've known, I knew the Philippines. I think I do remember India. I know Hawaii. Yeah. And yeah, Hawaii. he said Montana or Missouri. You know, Missouri. Yeah. Yeah.
Ice Bear (14:16)
many
Well, I lived in Missouri with so obviously he was with me, but no, but like before I was born, like my,
my mom and him lived in Montana. They lived in Helena.
Grizz (14:42)
Yeah, that's crazy. That means awesome. It's amazing.
Ice Bear (14:45)
But
it also, when I think about that, it makes sense as to why I have that rolling stone energy in my blood. I'm like, all right, it's just I'm fighting genetics.
Grizz (14:59)
That's fair, because even you, like, you've lived in a lot of places too.
Ice Bear (15:02)
Yeah. Yeah. Every now and again, I'll be talking to coworkers and I'll mention something I think I've brought up before. They're like, wait, you were where? You're doing what? Like, ⁓ yeah. Yeah, sorry. Did that too.
Grizz (15:16)
Yeah, I mean, it's interesting. It's cool. Because like I said, I've ⁓ traveled to a good amount of places, but I haven't lived anywhere else outside of Texas. I've lived in different parts of Texas and then the Pacific Northwest, I guess now. I've never, and I've visited all the places, but I've never lived anywhere long term. So that is really,
Ice Bear (15:25)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Growing up, really is a bummer because you'd make friends and then like just when you started to get comfortable, you're like, let's get and you're like, fuck, but in
Grizz (15:47)
The thing is like
I did that too. I I did that too but like just in the city. so like ⁓ going I think.
Ice Bear (15:53)
Yeah.
Grizz (16:00)
me count this real quick. I'm pretty sure.
Ice Bear (16:06)
The Math is math and math math math math and the math is math math math math math. Well, you're doing your math out to bad bunny.
Grizz (16:16)
Yeah,
So, like, by the time I got to middle school, I was like, went to six different schools. And then so my middle school is my seventh school, and I spent all middle school to three middle school years in the same school. And then I moved to a different high school. So I was so all my friends from middle school went to one and I went to a different one.
Ice Bear (16:29)
Yeah, that's rough,
Mmm.
Grizz (16:45)
And then
like, I, and then I spent my high school years in the same space. But yeah, but like, so like, I was always moving around dude. So was like, I had a friend for like a year and I got your close friend for a year and then fucking gone. You know?
Ice Bear (16:58)
Yeah, yeah, that was always a bummer back then. But in hindsight, I'm glad it happened because it makes you not more resilient, but more curious, I guess, which I think that's a good thing. I think that's always a good thing.
Grizz (17:13)
Yeah, because I never
Yeah, cause I never really had like, cause I had acquaintances and friends and some years I have like a lot more friends than other friends than this and that. But I always just had like one friend friend. I always like made one like best friend. And then I had like acquaintance relationships or whatever, but I always just had like one best friend. And that's kind of all I really like cared about except for fourth grade. I remember fourth grade. was like, that's like height of cell game Dragon Ball Z on Toonami.
Ice Bear (17:30)
Yeah.
Yep. Yeah.
Grizz (17:45)
thing, right? And so like, Ebisu will come out and it'd be like six of us just are fucking like, hype the fuck up every sense.
Ice Bear (17:56)
What a, what a, what a bonding agent. What a tremendous bonding agent. I think the closest thing I had to that where it was just, we all had like a super passionate shared interest was ⁓ like fourth grade through maybe eighth grade. For whatever reason, my whole friend group really, really liked Smash Brothers. And then
Grizz (18:22)
Hell yeah.
Ice Bear (18:24)
We all were into WWF. like, if, like, if someone was over like late and you're and so stay for dinner, blah, blah, blah. And then like, can they stay one more hour and watch raw? you're like, all right. And so now you're watching wrestling and playing video games and shit. And then the other thing was, I don't know why we all had an obsession with manhunt, which I don't know if that's like a nation tag at night, but the, so the thing is no flashlight. So the way we played was.
And also no bases. So you had the one hunter and then you would section off the yard to make it not ridiculous. But the people hiding were just like, you could not move. So there's no running. And so you were just trying to really like hide. remember like covering my face in mud and just like lying in bushes. And we would try and get like as close to the start point where the person was counting as possible. And sometimes we would hide so well. And because he had like, like a stoop thing.
leading up to his front door. And there's like a line of bushes right by there. And if you like wrapped yourself into the bushes in a certain way and you're wearing dark enough clothes, like you could get right up and you'd just be so excited to find you like somewhere else and just like beeline and then you could just hear the frustration. This is always, always very exciting.
Grizz (19:22)
Mm-hmm.
That was funny. Yeah, because I remember, yeah, like, so when I grew up, which was like when I grew up in like the not great area, my aunt lived there forever. So like, even though we lived there, and then we ended up moving after a few years, we kept going back like almost every other week or so because like my cousins were there all from just to their right. So like we would go. And so for us, we had like this giant courtyard thing. So we always play kickball. And then I know we would play. ⁓
Ice Bear (20:03)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (20:11)
We played everything. Fucking red Rover, do you ever red Rover? all right. So red Rover is great, but you need like fucking like you need a whole squad. need like eight to 10 people. Right. And so there's two teams. Right. all. like team five, team of five, all of us are on opposite sides of the field, right? We're on opposite sides of the field and you go and you interlink arms like this, right? And each team forms a chain.
Ice Bear (20:14)
I don't know about Red Rover, what's this?
shit. Okay.
You
Okay.
Grizz (20:41)
Right. And the chant is, and we'll say like, we're playing on opposite teams. And then I would go red Rover, red Rover, seven dice bear over. And you would fucking run as hard as you can and try to break through the chain. And so you're trying to run and we're holding and you pick who you think the weak link is and you're running as hard as you can. And they're trying to hold you. And so like they catch me, try to swing you back and you're trying to break through them. If you break through them, you get a point. Right. ⁓ and so like.
Ice Bear (20:45)
Yeah.
Okay.
⁓
⁓ that's really
good.
Grizz (21:09)
Yeah. And so then you'd go and then you'd obviously pick the weaker one. The other teams would say like my team, I had the tiger, right? And so you'd be like right over it over some tiger over and she'd run through and try to break through, right? Like, and that's how you play it. You can play by points or you can play like any unsuccessful one gets taken out of the link and they get out. You like if there's a couple ways to play it, but we played that. That was one of my hairy games as a kid. Uh, obviously cops and robbers and also cowboys and Indians are the same thing. You're just, know,
Ice Bear (21:27)
Okay.
That sounds super fun.
Grizz (21:39)
Same things. ⁓ Kickball was big and then we played manhunt. But we played manhunt with flashlights too.
Ice Bear (21:47)
⁓
man, just thought of a... Yeah, with flashlights it was fun, because every now and again we would do that. But for the most part we played the way I was mentioning. All right, based on your first beer, did you ever play redacted? The redacted? Redacted, the redacted was great. ⁓
Grizz (22:09)
⁓ yeah, yeah. For me,
fifth grade was the best because all the fifth graders went out together. And so all of us, just brought a football. And then two of the teachers were football guys. And so like.
Ice Bear (22:19)
Uh-huh.
Grizz (22:29)
Yeah. And do we we would.
So we would go and there'd be like fucking like 15 to 20 of us and we get the ball in the middle and start off with like with one of the teachers. Right. And like, cause he would be like, we was like, let's go play. then like, we'd be next to one of the girl teachers and he'd look at us like, know what mean? And then as soon as she left, right. And so we'd go and he'd stand in the middle of us and it'd be like fucking 15, 20 of us all like just rated.
Ice Bear (22:37)
You
Mm-hmm.
huh.
Absolutely amazing.
Grizz (23:06)
Reading and he just fucking throw it up as high as he can in the air and he step out and all of us if he couldn't catch it as soon as we catch it he go he count the he has a three and he catch it and he bolt off and the teacher go one two three and freaking everybody was heart-chasing and we'd be going through the blacktop through like all the courtyard everywhere like dude it was so fucking fun it was so fun
Ice Bear (23:23)
Amazing.
Dude, that'd be so fun. That sounds amazing.
⁓ dude, before I lose this, we have an elephant in the room to address. We have smoke to clear. ⁓ Maybe I already did this, but if not, it's worth apologizing twice for if I haven't already done this. OK. And I think if you do a short for this, the title of it should be Ice Bear Stunning Admissions.
So you said that and your face doing that should be the still. It was the week we were talking about the Redskins theme song. And I was talking about the hail to the Redskins because the one guy commented and whatever he said or she said, I'm sure you're right. Like I'm positive two beers deep. was misremembering the song because I remember you said it and I was reading it was like.
Grizz (24:08)
huh. Yeah.
Ice Bear (24:24)
That sounds more accurate than whatever I said. So good job. Good job fact checking us.
Grizz (24:26)
Hahahaha
Ice Bear (24:33)
And I apologize for the misinformation of the Hail to the Redskins Hail victory I think he said it was something on the warpath and fight for oldies Yeah, something something like that I feel I feel like I've made amends we tried
Grizz (24:35)
Damn.
Badoobadoobadoo
I see. at this. Look at this. at this. I've mistakes.
Ice Bear (24:57)
Look, we'll admit if we made mistakes. We'll admit it. We're not perfect.
But these mirrors are pretty good.
Grizz (25:05)
pretty damn close.
Now yeah, so outside of redacted, they're redacted.
Ice Bear (25:14)
It's a really fun game.
Grizz (25:17)
You never do people really like you think they know the name like do you think some other game?
Ice Bear (25:17)
It's a real.
All
right, here's how we can do it. In my area, it was either smear the redacted or bag the redacted. Both of the redacted parts are rhyming words and they're both vaguely offensive.
Grizz (25:34)
Okay.
Okay, so I never had back I never had I
never had the bag I was gonna do this. We're gonna do this. All right.
Ice Bear (25:42)
Don't, no,
don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. It's 2026 year of our Lord. Don't get canceled.
Grizz (25:45)
What if, okay, how about this?
We're smart to cancel. Anyway.
Ice Bear (25:53)
No, no, no,
no, we're big. We're 18 in Thailand.
Grizz (25:57)
that's true. How about you do...
Ice Bear (25:58)
We
can't lose our Thai audience. They're learning English through us.
Grizz (26:04)
All right, here
we go. We're going to do this.
Ice Bear (26:11)
Is there a, there's gotta be an actual name for that game that is not like offensive.
Grizz (26:17)
I'm pretty sure that is that's the name. I know I remember googling it or like going to thing where people are asking if there's other names for it. I think somebody just called a dog pile and was like, Yeah, that sucks. ⁓
Ice Bear (26:33)
⁓ I like that we're both aggressively.
Grizz (26:36)
Yeah. So like.
Ice Bear (26:40)
⁓ kill the carrier. There we go. It's a it's no, it's a terrible name, but like I think people can get the concept of the game. So basically someone someone in in the collection of as many people as you wanted to play could play this game. You needed a football and you needed humans. And so you'd throw the football up, someone would grab that football and then everyone else's job was to tackle that kid. And then when that kid got tackled,
Grizz (26:44)
That's of nice, that's cool.
Ice Bear (27:10)
He would throw it up, rinse and repeat. And it was just an outstanding game.
Grizz (27:16)
I don't know man. I kind of kind of feel like we can just say because didn't they like take that word back? Isn't it not offensive anymore isn't like the 90s and like maybe 2000s where I was offensive?
Ice Bear (27:27)
Look, look, we're both big boy high level guys now. We can't risk it. We can't risk it. This is going to get reported to the higher ups.
Grizz (27:36)
All right, we'll just do this.
All right. You're going to say the first cell, the first half of the word and also the second half of the word. Right. If the game is smear the
Ice Bear (27:45)
Hold on here's here's here's what we'll do. Have you ever seen that show Queer Eye for the straight guy?
Grizz (27:54)
So it's mirror the queer eye for the straight guy. Without for the straight guy.
Ice Bear (27:56)
It might have been that.
Hey, now, hey, you're getting a little too close to say. Yes, yes. No. OK. Oh, thank God you got it. The rest of that scary. That's real scary. We're flying real close to the sun.
Grizz (28:06)
It's merely clear I'm the straight guy.
It's like the South Park episode the nagers episode
Ice Bear (28:22)
dude I remember the
first time I saw that episode and they're like doing the the wheel of fortune bit
Grizz (28:29)
Oh, it's cracking up so fucking hard. But yeah, he's like, I don't know what I was saying. To be fair, I would have never thought naggers either. I've never heard of I've never heard of the word naggers. Yeah. And then they brought in fucking Kramer. And then he's like,
Ice Bear (28:31)
And what was the clue for it? People that annoy you or something?
that it's not even a yeah, it's not a word that really registers in your head as a a as a Ute.
my god.
Grizz (28:57)
The one word here and one word there are fine. They're just normal words, but you put them together. ⁓
Ice Bear (29:10)
shit.
Grizz (29:11)
Dude, so good, so funny. Outside of that valiant game, played a lot of football in fifth grade, and that was great.
Red Rover, Dodgeball was great. Kickball was amazing.
Cowboys Indians, bank cops robbers.
Ice Bear (29:37)
Mm.
Grizz (29:38)
I didn't take manhunt.
Ice Bear (29:40)
Did you ever play, there's not really a name for it, but did you ever play like anyone with like a two story house, you would just try and like launch a football or a baseball over it, like someone would stand in the front yard, someone would stand in the backyard?
Grizz (29:52)
Yeah, we
definitely did that. The apartment complex where we had, we used to do that with house and stuff, but when we were at an apartment complex, they were like duplexes, but where the doors were to go with the entrances, they were like, on the one story side, there was just a slant roof, right? So was like a slant roof here over the doors, and then it was like the next story, so it flat.
Ice Bear (30:06)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (30:15)
And we used to piss off our fucking parents and everything because we would just get a ball and launch it up there. And then like it bounce off that we can and run and try to catch it. Right. And you've obviously when you're inside the house, you hear it hitting everything. We used to get in so much trouble all time, but we just always did it.
Ice Bear (30:28)
⁓
man,
the thing that we got in trouble for the most was so we when we when we'd hoop we'd either we'd we'd go down to like the full court at the lake or if we're playing like a half court game we pretty much always played at my house so if there's like six of us or fewer we'd play in my front yard anything more than that we'd go down to like but when we played at my yard like my parents had like just like a standard like split foyer like that normal everyone can picture that house with like a two-car garage and
the court was directly in front of the garage. So like any errant pass like smash the garage. And because it was just like that thin metal, it just like echo. my God, it was so loud. And it was like we like my mom would always give us like one, like one of them. second time it hit, she'd like, go to like, like immediately furious that we're destroying the garage.
Grizz (31:11)
Probably be the biggest bang. Yeah. Yeah.
Ice Bear (31:27)
Cause it was in hindsight, like if it was my house as an adult, I would, I would have been pretty bad at us. Cause like some of us like put some heat on those masses, zipping in there.
Grizz (31:38)
So let's do this. Did you? Because you know, kids are sometimes terrors. Were you a terror in your neighborhood or like your group of kids in the sense of like just either mischief and or like intentional or unintentional? Because I can say my little friend group and like in fifth grade, sixth grade, so we were fucking little terrors here and there. And I don't think a lot of it. I think there's a good amount of this justified.
But when saying stars, I'm like, I kind of all shits, you know what mean?
Ice Bear (32:14)
Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. We did a few things that were very chaotic. I feel like you.
Grizz (32:19)
Before we
get into it, you want to go on to the next one? I'm feeling a little parched.
Ice Bear (32:23)
Yeah, hold on.
Let me finish this first one, then. Yeah, absolutely. Let me get the bare bottom out of here.
Grizz (32:31)
how you get that bare bottom out redacted regular olipa I think as much as I love all of this and everything like that
All I'll say is that in these papers, I see nothing about bears written on islands. all I'm saying. But Redacted, your really basic beer, you're kind of the IPA. I will give you a C plus because it's a good beer. It's not amazing, but you're just a regular old Redacted EPA.
Ice Bear (33:01)
⁓ Forest runner, little more enthused I am than Old Grizz was about his. I'm going to go all the way up to a B plus. This was a good beer. I would get this again if I saw it. I enjoyed it. was a ⁓ nicer aromatic experience than it was taste, but it also was tasty. So yeah, good time. Good time.
Grizz (33:12)
Cool.
Ew.
Hey, hey.
Ice Bear (33:31)
I got my second one here.
Alright, well, do we want to try and get the crack correct this time or?
Grizz (33:36)
Yeah.
Yeah, let's try to crack this trick this time. think honestly how we ended up talking about just like old tales of yore and stuff is actually perfect. Because this one right here is a throwback art to a 8-bit game that I fucking loved. I, and granted I like, I loved it a lot because it was one of my dad's favorite arcade games.
Ice Bear (33:54)
⁓
shit.
Why,
⁓ damn.
Grizz (34:11)
And so like when
we played it on a thing like he, uh, when he, we use finer animal in an arcade, he was like stoked about it. And then he was stoked about it. And he has a little kid or like, I want to be stoked about it. And so like, I try to like, I would go to try to get better at the game. And like, the game a lot because my dad liked it and I went into like, Oh, you like this game too. You know what I mean? So part of it, started off like that. And then I ended up just really loving the game. They played it so much and it was great. This one right here is a juicy EPA from.
Ice Bear (34:30)
Mmm.
Nice.
Grizz (34:40)
Matchless brewery, Matchless, is, Matchless beer has become probably my favorite brewery up here in the PN Dub so far. But this juicy Iba is juiced.
Ice Bear (34:57)
⁓ look at that.
Grizz (34:57)
And you see these
hop hop scallion lads on top of ostriches. Juiced right here. Which if the video game is called joust and joust arcade games, I have to call the thing where you have to joust off the people, right? Like in your own top of ostriches and stuff. Do ever play that game?
Ice Bear (35:04)
I love this.
Yes.
Yeah.
⁓ Not only have I not played that game, I've never heard of that game. But... But-
Grizz (35:23)
Really? It's a fantastic
fucking like 80s era game like I only you know the old like Namco ⁓ Namco like arcade packs that you can kind of play anything. Yeah, just as one of the big guys just dig dug It's like the era of dick-dug and stuff. So that era of games fantastic fucking game
Ice Bear (35:33)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Okay, gotcha. In
the spirit of relating, jousting is the state sport of Maryland. Shout out jousting.
Grizz (35:47)
Really?
yeah. Yeah. Juicy, Epa hops, Citra love it. Azuka, which sounds like Azuka who was like the first waifu and Aztec, which are like kind of really cool as far as God's go. But also one thing I just wanted like, like the, you know, the pyramids in Mexico and stuff. You know what I recently learned? They didn't build them.
Ice Bear (35:51)
You
Mm-hmm. What'd you learn?
Explain yourself right now.
Grizz (36:16)
The
civilizations found them.
Ice Bear (36:20)
Shut the fuck up.
Grizz (36:21)
Yeah.
Ice Bear (36:24)
I'm scared and a little turned on right now. Tell me about aliens. You know I love aliens. You know I get riled up by the aliens.
Grizz (36:37)
Let's see.
Ice Bear (36:39)
There's nothing that makes me happier than weird outside of earthly explanation things
I mean, it makes sense. I'm not doubting you for a second. I believe you. Like, there's so many of the old structures that are just totally like how.
Grizz (36:58)
Yeah, so look
at the whatever the fuck the Tia took to go on the fuck pyramids like the pyramid of the sun and moon were built before both the Mayans and Aztecs. But by an unknown earlier civilization, possibly the toolkit that Toltecs the Aztecs later named the city and revered it but did but did not build the original pyramids.
Ice Bear (37:22)
Where's this? is Tenochtitlan? Okay.
Grizz (37:25)
That, you go, right there.
Yeah. So like the Aztecs, they didn't build those pyramids. They were already there.
Ice Bear (37:29)
Dude,
what is that? There's a, you'll probably know right away what I'm talking about. It's like a, I think it's a fairly common Mexican name. And it looks like if you're a native English speaker looking at it, looks like X, X Seattle or something. And I think it's pronounced like Sochi.
Grizz (37:54)
⁓ fucking, hold on, yeah.
It's the make sure you're doing right. Because you said anytime you hear a lot I think of fucking quizacaddle the the ⁓ that but it was a quizacaddle that ⁓ it's like that the chocolate serpent god that's what I always think of.
Ice Bear (38:06)
the little axolotl axolotl. ⁓
⁓ yeah, yeah, that thing's cool, No,
it's it's just like I think it's I think you say it's so cheap or or or. Hold on, I'm going to crowdsource. Baby. What is that ⁓ Latina name that you think is really cute? starts with an X.
Yeah, sochi.
Grizz (38:37)
Yeah,
it has like it's basically so she was such an accident to TL right? Pretty sure yeah. Yeah.
Ice Bear (38:43)
Yeah, yeah.
That's such a cool,
that's such a cool, I love any name like that where it's just like if someone saw it and write it and like, what? Just breaks the English brain.
Grizz (38:55)
Yeah, so chill.
Yeah, because I think when I first saw it, I think it was like I learned it as a chill. But,
Ice Bear (39:04)
Mm. Well,
I think maybe like people do say it that way sometimes. I think it's one of those regional things. It's just a cool name.
Grizz (39:08)
Yeah.
Yeah, it is really cool. the whole, cause like in the Mexican, like the TL names is like, reminds me of like the Southeast Asians, like NG names, right?
Ice Bear (39:26)
Because isn't that one, I could be way off base on this, so immediately correct me if I'm wrong. That's not like Spanish. That's like whatever the native Mexican thing was, right? Okay. That's so cool.
Grizz (39:42)
Cause
I want to say it's the
What region is it from?
Yeah, it's the same thing. Yeah. So it's Mesoamerican, Aztec. So yeah, it's central Mexico.
Yeah, my family like I like to part of the family that is from Mexico. It's like the I mean, it's a big region. A lot how does the big region, but it's like a I guess more north, like northeast, I guess. Like. But yes, I like the album, like it's not in the region like my family's from. Or part of my family is from, but yeah, it's.
Ice Bear (40:18)
Yeah.
Grizz (40:34)
I do remember that name because I was kind of one of the cool things, which is kind of funny because like and like metal or like black metal, like black metal in general is very like anti religious, but it usually has a lot of the main bands have a lot of Nordic roots. So it's a lot of like anti Christian stuff because it's like, but they like pray to like, it's like themed around like anti Christian God, but like, oh, and or theme for like praising the like Nordic gods.
Ice Bear (40:50)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Grizz (41:04)
Right. And so like you have that, but like being in Texas, you're close to Mexico. So you have a lot of the people that are into that style that are do the same thing, but with like Mexican gods and like stuff. So, so like it is, so it's, so it was pretty cool to use. It wouldn't, it wasn't out of the norm to see like an edgy metal girl that would like had whatever edgy thing, but then had like some type of like, and think from like,
Ice Bear (41:17)
That's so cool.
Grizz (41:33)
Massive America, again, you know what mean? So that was pretty cool.
Ice Bear (41:35)
Okay.
That was very cool. ⁓ What the? We got way in the weeds here on this. You were interested, yeah, yeah, juice. That's where we were. That's where we were. talking about juiced. So you got juiced over there. What's the percentage on that, bad boy?
Grizz (41:44)
Anyways, juiced.
So this one, I'm hoping it's better, because like redacted, ABV was redacted, but when I looked it up on untapped, it was like around 5 % or some shit. So that was a weak boy. This one right here, let's see.
Ice Bear (42:06)
Okay.
Grizz (42:16)
Yes, a Citra, Azica Triumph, Casimir, Descriptors Juicy, Citrus, Ostrich Dual, question mark. ⁓
Ice Bear (42:26)
Wait, ostriches
are dueling?
Grizz (42:29)
Yeah, was joust. So the game ⁓ of joust, you're riding on ostriches and jousting. ⁓ This is not that strong either. This right here is a small little 6%, which means.
Ice Bear (42:31)
okay i guess scott you got to get to
Okay.
That's…
hey, hey, it's got stopping power. It's a fine beer.
Grizz (42:50)
It's
about the Oscar's motion in the ocean. ⁓
Ice Bear (42:55)
You
Grizz (42:59)
Yeah.
Ice Bear (43:01)
So you get that. I had the Forest Runner was a 7-5. And then this one, this one here. Also kind of a good segue based on what we've been talking about. Now we didn't play a ton of baseball, but we did every now and again when we just, you know, if maybe like you had a certain group of friends and not everyone wanted to play football or we had a few that just didn't like hoops.
But then every now and again you just wanted to be outside. It was a nice day or whatever. Maybe you'd play some baseball. And so we'd go over to the campgrounds and we'd set up some bases and we'd start getting out the old lumber. And every now and again, a little ice bear, yours truly would hit a dinger, dinger, dinger. This is a triple IPA, 11%. It's out of here. Ballpark pairings they recommend with this one.
Grizz (43:49)
Mwahahahaha
Damn. ⁓
Ice Bear (44:00)
hot honey pizza and jalapeno popper dog. So based on the things they're pairing this with, I have very high hopes.
Grizz (44:05)
damn.
Ice Bear (44:12)
Shall we crack?
Grizz (44:13)
like
that. ⁓
Ice Bear (44:16)
Did you already crack yours? Okay, I'm gonna wait. We'll do a tandem crack since our start point was terrible.
Grizz (44:18)
I did not.
Ready? One one thing
hot honey pizza. Again, the Butcher's Revenge pizza from Greenville Avenue Pizza Company. Fantastic. Three, two, one. I got got hitched. I'm sorry. my Lord, the fuck.
Ice Bear (44:41)
Okay. no. You got juiced it into oblivion.
Grizz (44:43)
I
got out I got ousted. I was a I would have lost that Justin Mitch What's that that jousting movie you have been waiting you have been measured maybe quarter or whatever Yeah, and you have been found wanting There's a great fucking I love that movie
Ice Bear (44:55)
A night's tale?
RIP Heath Ledger.
⁓ dude. Dude, this smells so pineappley. Holy shit. Like immensely pineappley. I'm excited. Also, I poured this one not like an asshole. So this this came out nice the first time around.
Grizz (45:24)
This smells
so fucking good, dude. I'm such a sucker for Citra hops. the smell of Citra in the morning just hits so fucking hard.
Ice Bear (45:36)
Come with me on a thought exercise here. So here you are. You're a nice young man or a nice young lady in Thailand. You wake up, maybe you're going to go commute to work. Maybe you're going to go walk. Maybe you're going on a bike ride. And you have all of the music in the world, every podcast in existence. you think, you know what I want to listen to?
Grizz (45:39)
Come water.
Ice Bear (46:05)
I want to listen to two fucking middle-aged guys drink beer and talk about random shit. I love that. I love that a whole lot. Brings me immense joy.
Grizz (46:17)
You know what, it's that, but it's also like, it makes you quirky. You know, it's like, you like listening to it your way to work. you wouldn't understand. You wouldn't get it, you know?
Ice Bear (46:28)
I
hope it's just on whatever public transport there is into Bangkok and they're like, listen to Tubi Tubi. You wouldn't know what that stands for. You wouldn't know anything about Tubi Tubi.
Grizz (46:43)
You're gonna get it.
I think that's it. We got gas lit to that position in Thailand. People are you wouldn't understand. So people are like, I don't understand. me go look what this is.
Ice Bear (46:58)
I can't believe edgelords rose us to prominence in Southeast Asia.
Grizz (47:05)
I it all makes sense to be honest.
Ice Bear (47:08)
that it makes way more sense than people actually being interested in it. I understand absolutely when we get the comments from someone that's like, you know, if you're between like 30 and 45 and you grew up with like similar interests to us that I get I understand those guys. But if you're not an American or a Canadian, like I do not understand why any of them are listening to it baffles me.
Grizz (47:37)
That's very true. It's very true.
Ice Bear (47:41)
But again, I think there's a small chance it's a language learning thing because it would be like a test. Because think about it, as we go on, probably a little more slurring. So it's kind of like hard mode. ⁓ The sentence structure gets a little more nonsensical because we're trying to gather our ideas and our thoughts. And it would be like, it would be a really good language learning tool to listen to just friends shooting the shit about nothing. Because you'd have to really know what's going on.
Keep up with it.
Grizz (48:13)
That's fair. Look at that. Laying the foundations.
Ice Bear (48:23)
They don't call us building block bears for nothing. ⁓ building block gris. ⁓ I icicle cornerstone. I ran out of architecture. I'm sorry. So sorry.
Grizz (48:40)
Fulcrum.
Ice Bear (48:42)
⁓ I feel like that's probably an appropriate word, when you say it, my mind makes it dirty.
What is a fulcrum? No, it just like, I know this isn't correct, but my brain is like associating with scrotum, which makes no sense. So what is a fulcrum? Please enlighten me.
Grizz (48:53)
What are you thinking, full com?
You
Ice Bear (49:15)
Come on, let's hear it. Gather yourself. Come on, this is professionalism. Professionalism, sir.
Grizz (49:23)
No, the full comes in. pretty sure full comes just like the base of a lever. I'm pretty sure it's just, yeah, I'm pretty sure it's like the base of a lever or some like remedial basic as shit.
Ice Bear (49:28)
Yeah, that makes much more sense. That makes far more sense.
Meanwhile, I'm
making it like a taint for no reason.
Grizz (49:43)
Okay. Another off topic.
Ice Bear (49:47)
We are never on topic, so there's no off topic.
Grizz (49:48)
Yeah.
Okay. Taint. Is it a taint or a gooch?
Ice Bear (49:53)
It's the, the, the, what's the scientific term? Paranium.
The spot twixed the end of your scrotes and your asshole.
Grizz (50:06)
Yeah, but...
You've heard of the term gooch?
Ice Bear (50:14)
Yeah, you've said it before.
Grizz (50:15)
Okay, I've only ever heard of it that and then like we sort of said, team was like, that's the like, isn't that a gooch? Yeah.
Ice Bear (50:22)
They hate us
because they taint us.
Grizz (50:25)
Hey, that's good.
the is that from? Isn't that the? Yeah, but yeah, yes. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. ⁓
Ice Bear (50:30)
I don't know, it's a James Franco, I think.
Grizz (50:39)
Damn. Alright, Gucci side.
Ice Bear (50:41)
Back the business.
back.
Grizz (50:48)
Tigers
like
Ice Bear (50:55)
Our harshest critic. Straight to jail. Straight to jail with you.
Grizz (50:56)
What the fuck? Okay, so I went... Yeah.
So did you know, so I
went to double check the full crumb thing, right? On Marion Webster. And apparently they have top lookups, right?
Ice Bear (51:06)
Okay. Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (51:14)
I was about to refresh again. Yeah. Number one is fascism. Two is chargagagamantraga. What the fuck this says? Three, electrocomplex. Four, chi. Five is vertiginous. Six is look. And seven is otapus complex.
Ice Bear (51:16)
Yeah.
Wait, what about an Oedipus complex in relation to fulcrum?
Grizz (51:36)
This is the top look ups
top look ups. ⁓ maybe Webster right now to refreshes every 30 seconds. Number one fascism seven is odious complex. Otipus complex. Yeah, so one fascism to char char char whatever the fuck like I don't know the fuck that is as like 40 fucking letters and then name. Electra complex Chi look
trigraph and otopus complex are the top seven.
most random shit ever.
Ice Bear (52:13)
⁓
did they make you read the Odyssey in school?
Grizz (52:16)
Yeah,
yeah, like in middle school or freshman year high school. Yeah, my
Ice Bear (52:22)
Man, fucking Oedipus complex
is weird.
Grizz (52:28)
I'm song about that. It's pretty dope. Also like ⁓ my username.
Ice Bear (52:28)
Very weird.
Grizz (52:42)
Wait, ⁓
Ice Bear (52:42)
Grizz?
What?
Grizz (52:48)
Now like my, ⁓
My mane.
My like personal private username that I use for like everything ⁓ is from the Odyssey.
Ice Bear (53:02)
Okay.
⁓ All right, hold on. I'm going to have to. Well, I'll have follow-ups later.
Grizz (53:11)
Yeah. ⁓
Ice Bear (53:13)
interesting
Grizz (53:16)
But yeah.
Ice Bear (53:17)
are you excited for the Nolan version
Grizz (53:20)
I didn't even know there was gonna be a null version. Who's gonna fucking be?
Ice Bear (53:22)
Dude,
this is supposed to be like the biggest movie of 2026. I think the budget was like a billion or something insane. Yeah, hold on. ⁓ Bear with me, I'm gonna look at the cast, because I don't wanna get it wrong. All right. Yeah, here we go. ⁓ Odysseus is going to be Matt Damon. ⁓ Tom Holland.
Grizz (53:29)
Ain't no fucking way.
Who's who's the lead?
⁓ you're here to pull up.
⁓ interesting.
Ice Bear (53:49)
Tom Holland is Tomakis, ⁓ Anne Hathaway Penelope, R. Pattinson is Antinous? I don't remember that name. And then the rest of these are not, it doesn't say who they're playing, but you've got Zendaya, Charlize Theron, John Bernthal, John Leguizamo, William Lee, Mia Goth. This is a good fucking cast. Like it's probably gonna be really good.
Grizz (54:14)
Did
you see seeing like my name is my name is always good.
Ice Bear (54:21)
Yeah, this comes out in July.
Grizz (54:22)
⁓
dude, that's actually fucking awesome. It's like, David's high split. He's gotten older, has been like great. And then like, Hathaway's always good. And then like, yeah, I don't really care much about, ⁓ the twink Spider-Man, but like he is good. I give him that.
Ice Bear (54:32)
Well, that's it. That's a stacked cast.
Pfft.
Leave Tom Holland alone, he's fine. He's good.
Grizz (54:49)
Yeah, I said he's good, but he is a dweek
spider-man out of all the spider-mans.
Ice Bear (54:56)
Who? So wait out of all the movie ones, who's your favorite?
Grizz (55:02)
I think Tobey Maguire is my favorite Spider-Man, but they're not my favorite Spider-Man movies. As a whole.
Ice Bear (55:04)
Yeah.
Okay, what's your
favorite? What's your favorite Spider-Man movies?
Grizz (55:10)
The one between fucking, yeah, I think his Spider-Man I liked.
Ice Bear (55:14)
Andrew Garfield.
I really like him. He's of the three actors. He is my favorite. There's something about just like the nostalgia of the first three. ⁓
Grizz (55:29)
Yeah.
So here's the thing. I put them all as a whole, right? Like the first one with fucking with our boy fucking he's a little gay. What's what's that one? The fuck? Oh my god. I can't look at his blanking on the same boondocks saints fucking dancing in the alley. My boy, they got one of the fuck I do. Like you don't talk about the fucking meme where he's like
Ice Bear (55:48)
Willem Dafoe.
Dancing in the...
Yes, you're not. Look, dude, the for me, when I think Willem Dafoe and again, we're spending this whole episode not getting canceled in Boondock Saints. Everyone that's seen it is going to know exactly what I'm talking about. There's a scene where he is ⁓ in bed. He receives a call. He just shut up. It's so.
Grizz (56:03)
That's the, that is like the quintessential actual like perfect equilibrium to faux fucking scene.
Ice Bear (56:30)
wildly aggressive, but in the context of that movie, outstanding.
Grizz (56:38)
Such a fantastic fucking, Wilhelm Defoe's such a fucking character. ⁓
Ice Bear (56:42)
⁓
Real quick, sorry, every time we bring up Boondock Saints, have to do it. For those that have not seen the sequel to Boondock Saints, Boondock Saints All Saints Day, please either watch the movie or look up the soundtrack so that you can hear Balls Deep in Your Love, the finest song ever in cinema.
Balls deep in the love
Yeah.
Grizz (57:17)
But yeah, Willem Dafoe, Spider-Man one fantastic movie. One of the best superhero movies in my opinion. Two, Spider-Man two with fucking Doc Ock.
Good. Still a good movie. Not a bad movie. three trash.
Ice Bear (57:34)
Yep. Yep.
You didn't like Venom? You didn't like Dark Emo Spidey dancing?
Grizz (57:47)
he had you know what he was terrible but how venom had and then venom had he you know what he had he had is a jarred not jarred Butler not fucking jarred jarred way there you go you know I'm talking about singer Frank Hamill comments do you remember his baby teeth in the music videos
Ice Bear (57:54)
You
Yeah. Yeah.
Grizz (58:17)
So Gerard Way has baby teeth. And I noticed, so like to be very perfectly frank, I don't like emo music. ⁓ But My Chemical Romance is Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge, fantastic album. Everything else don't like. People like cream over the glaze of the black prairie and I can't stand it. But
Ice Bear (58:23)
Okay.
Grizz (58:46)
3-Chess Sweet Revenge is like probably the only emo album I do like. ⁓
Anyways, where is it? I'm gonna fast forward because we're not gonna
Ice Bear (58:58)
while you're looking whatever you're looking up is fallout boy email.
Grizz (59:01)
Okay, perfect. I already got it. So here is, let's do this. This right here is, this is share. We're doing this. Screen. Here we go. ⁓ share. All right. I'm just gonna turn off the sound because we're not gonna need the sound.
Ice Bear (59:21)
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes. Yeah, it sounds not I feel like we're fine. I also love that you were so focused on this. You didn't hear my question at all. And it was it was the podcast equivalent. just kidding. I was like, Yeah. And you're like, No. I just kept it up. Come on. Give me a little high five.
Grizz (59:29)
Let's see.
I didn't hear shit.
Bye.
What did you say?
Ice Bear (59:52)
I had asked you is Fallout Boy considered emo music?
Grizz (59:57)
⁓ Yes. ⁓ actually in the beginning, yes, but like towards the end, no.
Ice Bear (59:59)
because whatever.
Whatever the...
Grizz (1:00:09)
We had the boy with the fucking antlers and the dad with the fucking hoes. That is emo. That's actually a song too.
Ice Bear (1:00:12)
Does that one count? Is that emo?
I was going to say it, because that's the one I actually did honestly like. I can't even pretend I didn't like it.
Grizz (1:00:19)
That's a good talk. Yeah, it's good. It's catchy.
But like it's, different than like emo emo. Yeah. So like real quick, put it on for five seconds.
Ice Bear (1:00:25)
damn, his teeth are small.
Turn it off. Turn it off right now.
Grizz (1:00:33)
Right.
So like he got baby teeth. Right. And like, yeah, so he has, he has little baby teeth. Right.
Ice Bear (1:00:42)
⁓ Also,
real quick sidebar, this was not intentional, but looking at this guy's outfit right now, this is pretty much exactly what I wore to my high school prom. Just like all black with a red tie. The theme was Havana Nights.
Grizz (1:00:57)
I think for for
for old music video thing or like show because I used to we used to go up in like like funeral garb kind of thing but for one of the times I wore black shirt red tie gray vest and I thought that shit went hard
Ice Bear (1:01:19)
Yeah, that would. That's a good look. That's a good look for sure.
Grizz (1:01:21)
Yeah, yeah, look,
and then every single edgy boys thing like cream to this girl here.
But anyway, so this dude, yeah, so that's that's that right. So like Venom's teeth were that guy's teeth.
Ice Bear (1:01:44)
Yeah, okay. Yeah, I see it.
Grizz (1:01:46)
And I
and I hated it because it's one because it was fucking eric foreman and he was like Swimpy scrawny like fucking because I even argue fucking Homie, what the fuck's the venom guy? the guy that talks about the accent all the time
Ice Bear (1:02:06)
Huh?
Grizz (1:02:07)
Call me the boys. He's in that biker movie where he has a stupid accent. He's like, happened to the boys at the bar? Who you talking about? The fucking guy. The actor that always has really fucking weird accents. He plays, he's in the Venom movies.
Ice Bear (1:02:16)
Who are we talking about? I mean, I wa-
He's like, he's in the Venet- Tom Hardy?
Grizz (1:02:28)
Yeah, doesn't he always have fucking weird ass accents? Was he like in that biker movie?
Ice Bear (1:02:32)
Tom Hardy's Bane.
Grizz (1:02:34)
Yeah, well, wasn't in the biker movie.
Ice Bear (1:02:37)
⁓ my God. Yeah. I forgot with, with the, kind of this Elvis
Grizz (1:02:40)
Yeah, yeah, and he's like, he's like,
go go turn the boys in the bar. He's like this weird ass fucking
Ice Bear (1:02:45)
you shit
you know what you're not wrong because now that I think about his his voice in ⁓ Peaky Blinders is also pretty insane
Grizz (1:02:55)
Yeah, like he always has these weird ass fucking voices and accents and shit. like, I mean, it works, but it's really weird, but it kind of works at the same time. you like it, it like zaps you, but it kind of like balances out. Like, I don't, I don't know.
Ice Bear (1:03:10)
have you ever seen Taboo?
Grizz (1:03:13)
the show like the old ass National Geographic show. Okay, no.
Ice Bear (1:03:14)
Yeah. No, no, it's a,
it's a Tom Hardy show. It's maybe seven episodes. is dude. actually really liked Tom Hardy. Like I like him a great deal. He's warriors. One of my favorite movies. Dark night rises was fantastic. Um, yeah. Taboo was a great show. Peaky blinders was great. I actually liked that.
Grizz (1:03:31)
Warriors. Yeah.
Ice Bear (1:03:41)
That biker movie is not great, but I liked his character in it
Grizz (1:03:45)
I thought so too. I have the unfortunate or fortunate. I never finished it. I watched like the first three quarters of the movie and then like I had to leave never been in and never finished it. But from what I remember, like I really liked it, but I, I, never, I never seen all of it, but from like what I remember, like I really did like it.
Ice Bear (1:04:11)
I also really like that he's ⁓ like a legitimate BJJ fighter. He's quite good at it. Where is his?
Grizz (1:04:16)
Mm-hmm.
And so, so my point in bringing up him is cause he's, you know, he's not, he's not a small, he's not huge, but he's not a small guy. And I would even argue like, cause he's, cause he's a pretty good size, big size guy. And I would even argue that he's probably a little small for fucking venom. Right. And, the thing is that fucking Topher grace is way smaller than him. And so him being the first venom was like, what the fuck, bro? Cause I love.
Ice Bear (1:04:36)
Agreed. Agreed. Yeah.
Yeah, dude.
Grizz (1:04:46)
when I because like when I love venom, I love venom because he was just a fucking behemoth. He was just a fucking behemoth brute with crazy ass fucking fangs and just fucking like he was a fucking tank. And so
Ice Bear (1:04:51)
Yeah.
You know who would
have been a good venom? Like Brock Lesnar. Like that's a venom.
Grizz (1:05:04)
yeah. want that. Yeah. Exactly.
Yeah. Yeah. He has to be something like that or a lot. Right. Cause to be fair, cause like Brock and the animated series was like that he was basically like a Brock Lesnar. Right. Like, and so that was my biggest thing. Like I love for me, Venom's tongue and fangs were like the teeth were like the fucking main fucking thing. And then Jim's just being a fucking behemoth.
Ice Bear (1:05:29)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (1:05:31)
So Topher Grace Venom, when they found him finally popped up, was like, was like, what the fuck is this? Because he had tiny little Gerard way teeth. And then he was scrawny. And I was like, what the fuck? So that pissed me the fuck off. At least when Venom came out, be fair, never, haven't watched like the later, the ones after the first one. ⁓ Because it kind of felt like it was going more into a comedy kind of era. And I was like, I don't want to this. So I didn't watch, I don't know how they came out later, but like,
Ice Bear (1:05:40)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm.
Grizz (1:06:00)
at least the venom, they probably later like, you know, he had the actual venom teeth and stuff. So that was great. And then how hard are you? Or then he's at least bigger. So I was like, okay, cool. But I was sorry. He's still not big enough for venom. So because of that,
Ice Bear (1:06:04)
Mm-hmm.
That is one of the interesting things that as we got older, and when I say we, mean like you and me and like other people like in our friend group that Lyft, it's, I don't know about you, but for me, it was very upsetting to look back and realize that a lot of the people that you either idolized growing up or were like, holy shit, that guy's huge. Like you look back and you're like, holy fuck, they're like, they're not even kind of a gym rat. They're like,
like full on normie like it's it's wild to look back and see the people like michael keaton batman what like that's batman ⁓ yeah yeah the basically
Grizz (1:06:49)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's fair. That's really, really fair.
Even my favorite Batman
who's probably, you know, one of the worst Batmans, like he's still my favorite Batman.
Ice Bear (1:07:12)
Adam West. Wait, hold on. ⁓ Kilmer.
Grizz (1:07:14)
No, he doesn't Movie Batman's. What's the least popular movie Batman and he's my favorite. Yeah, I fucked a lot of that gover.
I genuinely love that color Batman on go fuck
Ice Bear (1:07:27)
At least Val Kilmer was in shape. Like he wasn't big, but at least he was in shape.
Grizz (1:07:31)
Yeah.
The thing is he was, he was just fucking cool. he's, Kilmer just has like this cool like demeanor. And so like, right. Like to me, like Bruce Wayne, like the nonchalant kind of like cold thing. So like, love him in that. then come on bro, fucking kiss of a rose, bro, you can't beat Val Kilmer, Batman with fucking kiss of a rose.
Ice Bear (1:07:48)
Yeah, that's that's fair.
That's fair.
That's very fair. Quick aside, because I don't think we've ever brought it up in a single episode and it needs to be mentioned for our four listeners and our 9,000 listeners in Thailand. Absolute Batman is a must read. I know comics don't have a lot of follow right now because it's hard to find a comic shop and not everyone wants to invest in the thing, but you can find them through less than legal means that are not
particularly hard. Absolute Batman is so fucking good. It is it is the best like alternate take on the thing that we grew up with I've ever read. It's so good.
Do you know anything about it? Have I gone on this rant before with you?
Grizz (1:08:38)
Yeah,
I remember the it's one more because to me and I it's totally not. Did you ever read the I forgot it's it's sisters that wrote it. ⁓ But it's like the background for Black Widow.
Ice Bear (1:08:55)
⁓ no, that sounds interesting.
Grizz (1:08:56)
Yeah, it's like like,
like, originally for Black Widow. And it's like, I forget the writers, but it's two, it's two sisters, like, they're like, whatever sisters like they're, they're doing like all comic things now that's pretty cool. But like, they wrote that tale for like, the Black Widow thing. And then from what you kind of said, because it's like,
gritty, but not like edge lord gritty. You know what I mean? Like kind of like it's where like, like there's it's just, yeah, it's dark, but like, it's not performative in the sense of like trying to be easy. You're not forcing trying to be this thing, right?
Ice Bear (1:09:21)
Yeah, it's a good balance.
That's exactly it.
That is where it gets weird. You're absolutely right. It's when it becomes performative. That's the balance you have to, yeah.
Grizz (1:09:36)
Yeah.
Yeah, when you were talking about it reminded me kind of of that. And this because like I figured their thing but again, it's the people that are Rosa wrote it were like their two sisters. And they wrote it was an official release thing. And it's like Black Widows like origins thing. And it's actually like really fucking good. And kind of like reminds me of a totally off base but like the or you remember the anime comic got killed. Yeah, it kind of reminds me of like that like the origin things of that.
Ice Bear (1:10:07)
Man, great art. Also great cosplays from some peak cosplays from that show.
Yeah. Okay. Interesting. I'm gonna have to look that up.
Grizz (1:10:21)
Yeah, that one's definitely worth the read to be in my opinion. And that was just funny. So I was ever like a big Black Widow fan. Like all the offshoots are like the outside of the main like Marvel stuff never like got super deep into. But that one was actually like, I'm really happy I read.
Ice Bear (1:10:34)
Mm-hmm.
Mm. Yeah.
bless you. Well, shit, we got, we got way sidetracked. ⁓
Grizz (1:10:45)
Thank you.
We really did. All right. So here's the thing.
I'm still feeling a little parched. I got two weak boys. I'm gonna go grab another to chug while you're finishing off the last year strong boy. And we got to get into because I'm actually very curious. I really want to hear some some cub lore. And I'm really curious is hearing this how us being menaces in neighborhoods. I didn't forget because it because because because because because I'm actually very, very curious about this. All right. I'm gonna go grab my
Ice Bear (1:11:03)
No.
All right, yes, that's a good wrap up. That's where we were going. Same, yeah. All right, very good.
No segue, you just leave. Let's analyze what's going on behind our beloved Grizz here. For those that are listening, as they're driving to work or going on a jaunt, old Grizz behind him has what appears to be a stuffed corgi, maybe a demon bear, a raccoon, and a weird labubu.
Yeah.
Grizz (1:11:53)
This
is a grumpy pee.
Ice Bear (1:11:56)
Acrum PP?
Grizz (1:11:57)
Yeah, grumpy pee.
Ice Bear (1:11:59)
Grump PP is great.
Grizz (1:12:01)
So Grumpiepee is way cooler than all the vopers.
Ice Bear (1:12:03)
It really is.
Grizz (1:12:05)
They all have their like little symbols and they're all like fucking over it and to deprived. I pretty sure this one it's just can't sleep and they just mindlessly doom scroll TV. Right. Grum pee pee. The tiger got me one as a purple one has a little broken heart symbol on the thing. A little broken heart Care Bear thing and it's bro's heart broken. He can't sleep and he's just listening to sad music.
Ice Bear (1:12:21)
This is great. I love GrumpiPi.
God, poor son of a B.
Grizz (1:12:36)
Yeah. And so like grumpy bees are dope because they're like wearing a little like bare little kigos and they're just fucking sleep deprived sad fucks in kigos.
Ice Bear (1:12:43)
⁓
you
Grizz (1:12:49)
So they're cool as fuck. The tiger gave me this guy. And then actually the tiger also got me this one. This is my boy right here.
Ice Bear (1:12:59)
it's an
otter. thought it was a corgi. that's a very good otter.
Grizz (1:13:01)
That's an otter.
Which? Gris-pack, favorite animal. Otter.
Ice Bear (1:13:11)
All right. So real quick, because I do want to also get into the mischief lore. ⁓ I've talked about Ghosts of Yote a couple of times and how much I love this. I've been playing it in my off time lately.
Grizz (1:13:29)
I was like, you been playing because I haven't haven't got and again, like Sashima I loved Iota stuff.
Ice Bear (1:13:34)
Dude, is
everything about the original. just it's everything about the original, but better. It's it's my favorite game. I've never enjoyed a game more. But so really, like, like I've I've thought about it because it's a long game to like I today this morning, I just finished the main story. I still have a lot more. I'm to go back and like clean up because I want to I want to get the platinum trophy and 100 percent it and all that shit. But
Grizz (1:13:47)
Really?
Ice Bear (1:14:04)
I finished the main story today. There's a couple parts.
Grizz (1:14:06)
Do you
do you often 100 % games that you really like? Same, yeah.
Ice Bear (1:14:09)
No, no. ⁓ that
I really like? Yes, if I really like the game, I'll do it every time.
Grizz (1:14:15)
What's the last give me 100 %?
Ice Bear (1:14:18)
Ghost of Tsushima.
Grizz (1:14:20)
Yeah.
Because I rarely ever 100 % it 100 % games because I have this weird thing and kind of one of those were like, if I hundred percent it, then it's done. Yeah. And so it makes me like not want to do it. So
Ice Bear (1:14:30)
It's over. Yep. Yep. Nope. That
that's how I am with the so games I like. Like if we're doing it on our beer scale, like if it's an A game versus an A plus game, I'll let those linger because like for me, there's persona for golden persona five and persona five Royale. I'm like at the 90 % mark because I don't want them to be over. Like I really, really enjoyed them. I think they're fantastic.
but I just don't want them to be over. like there was something about Ghost of Tsushima that I was just like, no, I have to do all of it. And for sure with this one, I have to do all of it. Like I have to finish every last aspect because it's so evident to me that the people that made it, it was a passion project. And there's so much like love and effort that went into it that I'm like, I want to take advantage of all your work. And I want to respect it 100%.
Grizz (1:15:18)
cared. Yeah.
You want to respect it. Yeah. Yeah.
For me is ⁓ so like currently on my off time and granted it's been like I've been doing this for like a buddy year because I say like my off time it's like well yeah so like anytime I have extra space or like anytime I'm like on a plane I'm fucking doing it is this game I guess is polarizing one because like Gunnar stuff but also like
Ice Bear (1:15:37)
Minimal off time. Yeah
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (1:15:51)
People will act like it's the best game ever made and others are like, it's fucking super overhyped in this shit. I'm more like on like, it's, it's a fucking fantastic game. It's an amazing game. Best game ever made. don't know about that, but like, think it's one of the best, one of my favorites. It's fucking like near autonomous. Right. Well, absolutely love the game. Fantastic. the game. I've beat it whatever it's has before, but like I've never liked a hundred percent. There's so much side shit. There's so much. It's so much to do in it kind of thing.
Ice Bear (1:16:10)
Yep.
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (1:16:21)
Until like right now I'm in the quest of on my off time. Most times when I'm flying on a plane is when I'm playing it is I'm trying to a hundred percent that one and that cause that's one that I think it's like anybody that hasn't played it. I think should play it.
Ice Bear (1:16:33)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (1:16:40)
But like, I don't know. It runs the issue. You know what it's like? It's like, uh, you know, like, like the fucking each hand, I mean, high school D X D. Right. Yeah. So it's one of those words, like obviously gene fan servicey and stuff. Like it's not an hentai, but it's like super fan servicey towards like, it has never crossed the lines, but it's always like, all right, bro, you know? Yeah. And so it's one of those where like all like the ultimate, like
Ice Bear (1:16:51)
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
It's teetering on it. Teetering on it hard.
Grizz (1:17:07)
Goon or wife who's came from that especially for like normies The story is actually fucking great super cool. Basically Demon Kings leaders. It's like chess. It's like chess board things in each leader has rooks Knights bishops, you know like and so they basically have all the time as a king and the queen whatever so right so each squadron kind of has a thing and there's like demon families do you have like
Ice Bear (1:17:14)
Mm.
Grizz (1:17:37)
the demon world, you have like, St. Michael like God, and then you have like the fallen angels and the human world. And like there's like this balancing and there's like a power struggle between all of them. It's actually a really cool story. It's cool. It's dope. But also like, it's straight Ichi Gunner stuff. So when you're like, no, it's actually pretty dope. But then like, it's a hard zone. You're like, yeah, everyone was watching but like also like
Ice Bear (1:17:49)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (1:18:02)
animated and whatever stuff and clothes being blown off. So it's like, it's good. You know what mean? It's like a heart cell. Near is the same way because of to be to be is like ultimate like, ⁓ f girl cosplay, blindfolded maid. That's like thick as fuck. That's fights with the sword. So like it is a heart. So I think it's cheapened by fan service in that sense. But it's still a dope ass game.
Ice Bear (1:18:20)
Mmm. Mmm.
Yeah.
Yeah. Fuck, why was I bring? ⁓ so so one, I'm absolutely going to play this game at some point because you've this is the second time you've mentioned it to me and it sounds good. I will 100 % play it. But the reason I brought up. Ghost of Yote and this will be I'm not going to explain it in depth, but for you, this will be meaningful and we can talk about it later, so.
Grizz (1:18:52)
Yo, Ze.
Ice Bear (1:19:00)
in the game. in Ghost of Tsushima, like you find foxes and shit, right? And they like lead you to cool things and on fun missions. This one, there's also, there's still foxes, but there's also wolves. And the wolves lead you to people that are like committing atrocities. And they're like, so like, here's this group of like, soldiers that are doing like heinous shit, and also like capturing wolves. And they lead you and like, so over the course of the game, you prefer a wolf.
Grizz (1:19:12)
Go.
Ice Bear (1:19:27)
the wolf's name in the game is fucking Kiba. So, like, for those that don't know, in the first game goes to Shishima, my horse's name, and the horse of many people, one third of the people out there, is Nobu. That's why my horse in real life's name is Nobu. Now, for those that played the game, things happened to Nobu. They fucking wrecked me. So the minute I named Kiba, I was like, I am going to fucking kill myself if anything happens to this wolf.
Grizz (1:19:30)
shit!
Ice Bear (1:19:57)
So just when I thought that wasn't going to get worse, in the game, minor spoilers. There's a traumatic experience for the main character ⁓ in her backstory. This isn't much of a spoiler, so I'll ahead. Her whole family is murdered in a pretty horrific fashion, Her little brother, hours into the game, probably the quickest you could get to this information is like 25 hours of play time, I would think.
So like well into the game, right? Her little brother actually lived, escaped. Little brother's name is Jubay. And I was like, I am going to lose my mind if either of these things get killed. I was scared, I was furious, and I was like more invested than I had ever been. I was like, I will protect these things. I will turn this game off and never play it again if I think anything is gonna happen to either.
Grizz (1:20:54)
fun fact,
fun fact, old gris had a ferret, a big old fat ferret boy named Jubay. You know, it was just fun. Yeah, yeah. And that boy was like, bro was like, I think he was 11. Yeah, he was a fucking, he was a tank. Bro was like as big as my forearm. was huge. He was, yeah.
Ice Bear (1:21:01)
Okay, that's I didn't know if you wanted them to know it. That's why I bring this up.
He was a unit. He was a unit. He was a big boy. I remember the first time you were like...
Grizz (1:21:20)
And he's he's John, he was giant and he was like he was 11 when he died. And so he lived a long, long, long life. I got him cremated and everything. Yeah, he was a damn good boy. So.
Ice Bear (1:21:25)
That was a good first snack.
Juba is good boy. B.S.
So, so yeah, there's there's also a Juba in this game. So I was like, man, this is this is real in the fields.
super duper
Grizz (1:21:48)
The ghost
is just killer. No, boo, juby and fuck and fucking Kiva.
Ice Bear (1:21:52)
it ⁓
Dude, it's just, there's so many things that it does extremely well. There's little attention to detail with art. I could go on a rant for a long time, but it's just for anyone that is in the mood for something that you can invest, you know, if you play like half an hour a day, like this will take up the rest of your year. Cause I think you could easily commit a hundred hours of playtime to it if you wanted to. and it's...
so easy because the environments that they built are incredibly pretty. The music is great. The voice acting is phenomenal. The storyline is peak. Like it's just, I can't say enough good things about it. It's really, really enjoyable.
Grizz (1:22:43)
Yeah, I think everything you say about that.
Is the same thing for near? Because honestly, like I'm telling you, environments great. All this stuff's awesome.
Ice Bear (1:22:51)
Mm.
Grizz (1:22:58)
What the fuck in music too? Yeah, I played on the Switch. Well, I'm 100. When I first played it, when I first played it was PSP. When I first ever played it, the deluxe edition came out on like the Switch to like I'm pretty sure it's on everything. But it came out on the Switch. So like now I'm 100 % again on Switch.
Ice Bear (1:22:59)
And you play it on Switch.
Is it on anything else? Or is it just Nintendo?
near automata. Okay, so they have a switch and PS4. Okay, maybe I'll look for it on switch.
Grizz (1:23:24)
Yeah, well, I'm telling like.
Yeah, it's I'm playing it on a switch. I'm 100 % again on a switch right now. And it's been everything that you say about this. It's the same because it get from me. Like I do like RPG style stuff, but like, you know, like the God of Wars are great. Fucking Tsushima is great. Dark soul stuff's great. Like I those are my favorite type of games. And I think that that seed got planted with like Ocarina of Time and like stuff as it was a you. You know what I mean?
Ice Bear (1:23:55)
Mm-hmm.
Yep, same.
Yep.
Grizz (1:24:01)
So
yeah, so like, like open world enough to where like, there's a lot to do and like, obviously character development and things like that, but like where you can do a lot of side shit too, like if you want to, yeah, you don't have to fucking just grind main story. You can grind it out. This is like my favorite stuff. ⁓ yeah. So near is very much that and here's dope because I gets this, you are in this thing where
Ice Bear (1:24:06)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yep. Same.
Grizz (1:24:29)
alien life invaded Earth kind of stuff. And these machines from there like were attacking, killing humans. So humans fled from Earth. like nature's taking over civilizations again. so like, and so and so you're yeah. And so you're in this thing. And so like the androids are being sent back from the humans.
Ice Bear (1:24:48)
Okay, so, horizon-y.
Grizz (1:25:00)
to try to clear out space so that humans can come back to earth. And so you're an android trying to do that, right? And so like you're in these post-apocalyptic cities that are like overgrown. I guess similar to like last time was how like, you know how like you have like kind of like where nature's taking over cities again. So you have these things of like, where this...
Ice Bear (1:25:18)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (1:25:24)
You're like falling down ruins of buildings that are being overtaken by nature. so like animals are living there again and stuff, but you still have machines that are there and like you're in, it's not a spoiler because it's like very early on that you're realizing that like these machines are displaying signs of sentience to we're like, they're like, there's families being thing and I talk about love and shit and you're like, and so they're like failing to commute like ⁓
Ice Bear (1:25:40)
Mmm.
Mmm.
Grizz (1:25:50)
or read the badges this time, you know what I mean? it's, it's so there's this like, there's this thing of like, we're sitting here to kill all these things, there's extremely things because these were killing humans and humans have these to kill us. But also they're like, they're like, you think you're so great. You've killed my brothers, you've killed all these things, you know what I mean? Like, so like, it's all this, it's this whole drama thing of like, morality, like it's so it's so fucking good. It really is so good.
Ice Bear (1:25:52)
⁓
Mm-hmm.
Interesting.
Mm.
Grizz (1:26:18)
And the only thing that's like, the game knows that when you die, all your power from shit, like you're dead. Right. And so you lose. So you lose a lot of the stuff, but the only, but the thing is that you will, from your safe way, you can go back and if you find your body, I you can get your fucking, you find the old body thing. Cause basically you have a pretty safe Android thing. So when you get plugged into the new one, you can go back and you can fight and you can find the body thing and like fucking raid your own corpse, basically and get your shit back.
Ice Bear (1:26:24)
⁓ interesting.
that's good.
that's good.
that's cool.
that sounds good. I'm sold.
Grizz (1:26:52)
It's
super good. It really is. And then boss fights are great. Like they're super fun, you Kind of like Dark Salty but less grindy.
Ice Bear (1:27:04)
Dude, Dark Souls is rough. that's, those are hard games.
Grizz (1:27:09)
Yeah, I've only played one or two. Never played the last one. There's only three, right? Or is there more? Yeah, yeah.
Ice Bear (1:27:12)
Yeah, I
just only three I'm aware of.
Grizz (1:27:18)
Yeah, okay, I'm pretty sure I'll
play one and two. I've beat one. I've never beat two. And I've never even played three.
All right, we've got enough. We've got enough and do a tangent.
Ice Bear (1:27:30)
Okay.
Yeah, let's get back to let's get back to mischief mischief. Let's wrap this up with mischief. So so give me give me your your Olympic podium of mischief as a youth.
Grizz (1:27:36)
Alright.
That's hard. That's actually really hard because it depends. So we'll go to the thing. We go into the thing of
Ice Bear (1:27:51)
Okay.
Grizz (1:28:03)
You know, as kids play, right, sometimes parents aren't too happy.
As kids play, parents are too happy or not even parents, adults don't get too happy with like you doing things because you know, sometimes when you mean the best, you cause a little havoc.
Ice Bear (1:28:27)
Yep. That's true.
Grizz (1:28:31)
I interpret these things are like these crazy ass neighbors are on during the time I was like, guys, Dirk ladies, ⁓ a female dog, dare say crazy. And then I think back, I'm like, okay, I could see it. I still think a lot of it was justified on our end, but I'm like, okay, looking at it on the other side, it's more of an adult. I'm like, I can see the crash. I can see why you wanted to crash out, but also like.
Ice Bear (1:28:43)
Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Grizz (1:29:02)
that we were still just to find this kind of, you know, I kind of teetered between the two, but yeah, it's safe to say that all, all bear cub reps, galleon groups, we did cause our own fair fair share of mischief.
Ice Bear (1:29:26)
I'm like jotting down my top three so don't lose them. Okay, yeah. I got it. I got my podium of our hijinks.
Grizz (1:29:37)
I don't know if the top three, you do number one and I'm going to say one that matches it because I think I have more of the
Ice Bear (1:29:41)
Okay.
Okay. So my bronze medal position for hijinks, because it was, again, in hindsight, if I'm looking back on it as an adult now, I see the frustration and I see the alarm. But also at the time, hilarious, just we were doing God's work. So we would get off the bus, we'd go to my friend's yard. He lived on a main street, like a lot of traffic.
Grizz (1:30:11)
Okay. So Main Street, like see, like see this hitting Main Street or Main Street for like a suburb, suburb, suburb, suburb. Okay. Okay. Cool. Gotcha.
Ice Bear (1:30:16)
Suburb, suburb, suburb Main Street. like, you know, like a car,
a car every 10 seconds, but like to the point where it's rural enough that like, if you saw something crazy, you might slow down, which was our goal. Our goal was to see how many people who gave the stop. So what we would do is we would get off the bus, throw our backpacks in my friend's house, and then we would just pretend to like,
violently kick his ass. Like we're just like throwing like crazy like, hey makers look like and he was like, he was good selling like this is like W again, this is this is my group of friends. like into WWF. So he's like selling music. He like really like violently like motioning every time we're like fake hitting him. And and cars and stuff. Hey, leave him alone. Stop hitting him and some people would like honk and
It was, but that was the goal. were just trying to get a rise out of people. But yeah, in hindsight, like if see a little kid getting beat up or what you assume is getting beat up by other little kids, you're probably gonna react, right? Like I would. I'm like, hey guys, knock it off, leave them alone.
Grizz (1:31:24)
Yeah.
So so we I have I have one that kind of goes to that but it's not that. So we had to think where we've so I had like two groups of friends in the neighborhood I had like my friends were in my grade. The older kids. Because out of like because it me my brother me my brother two years apart. He's two years younger than me. And we had two close friends that were left two houses down from us. Right.
And say I was 12. This kid was 11. My brother was 10 and the other brother was nine. Right. So we were like this. So we were like we would go we would take turns going to each other's houses like we'd bring our fucking N64 controllers. Right. Like we'd fucking play Smash Mario Party like we play all the fucking things. It was amazing. But
So we had us and then we had, it was like three, like four other kids who would kind of come with us. So was a group of like eight of us. It was fucking fun. And then I had like my old, my, my friends, friend friends in my grade and up. So there was like 12 of us and all of us were like, you know, 12, 13 or whatever. Right. So the younger group of friends, so it's like from me being the oldest to like two years, three years being the youngest. Um, and that was like eight of us. But we all live on the same street.
Ice Bear (1:32:35)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (1:32:48)
What we would do is we would get like half of us to be on one side of street, the other side would be the other. And when cars would pass, we'd either act like we'd pull a rope really hard. Right. And we, there was nothing in the street, but we both would act like we were fucking pulling to try to make cars slow down or, or as soon as they get closer, we start acting like we're throwing rocks or some shit, but we had nothing. Right.
Ice Bear (1:33:02)
⁓
That's so good. ⁓ that's so good.
that's really good. Dude, that's that's a really good victimless crime. Like that's very good.
Grizz (1:33:16)
But we would act like it's we're trying to get them to stop.
I remember this guy in the truck and we act like we're throwing rocks, right? And he fucking like gets past like two hours past and he slams on the brakes and he gets out of the car and granted like I'm a fucking because at this time we're in the fucking suburban neighborhood and I grew up in the fucking ghetto. go again, huddle them. So I didn't give a fuck. And then even at that, I didn't care at all. And also to like my dad's not a nice guy.
Ice Bear (1:33:50)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (1:33:52)
So like if
Ice Bear (1:33:52)
Yeah.
Grizz (1:33:53)
it escalates and my dad knows my dad's gonna muck him, you're gonna cause him havoc. dad, you know, my dad's a criminal on lot of occasions. So me being mucking 12, I'm like, oh my dad, if my dad can beat him up. So we do the rope thing. He goes and he slams on his brakes. By the time he stops, like two hours, he gets out of his truck and he's yelling at us. We're all like, why? We didn't do anything. We were like arguing back with this adult.
Ice Bear (1:33:55)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Ha
Grizz (1:34:20)
It's like, Oh, need a fucking like we're gonna do nothing. Get the fuck out of here. This group of like 12, 12 year old just as just like, like we're calling it like calling of stupid for stopping and like, know, to be like, just egg him on. And you have this grown ass man. I are doing my fucking free teams and kids like we're fucking like little terrors.
Ice Bear (1:34:25)
Good night, my dad. Good night.
amazing.
Amazing. that's good.
Grizz (1:34:50)
So that's the equivalent one I'll say
that's actually kind of bad. And this is actually kind of really bad because it's and vandalism is involved. Some some bandit I think is actually still justified. There was this one lady that lived across the street from me. She loved me across the street and like four houses down this this this woman would get so because we would fucking just throw football on the street. We're not even in her fucking yard. But we're in front of her house on the street because we're throwing you down the street. We're fucking you know what mean?
Ice Bear (1:34:58)
⁓ no, okay.
Yeah. Yeah.
Grizz (1:35:19)
We're just playing fucking catch. And she's like, she gets, comes out yelling at us for throwing the football. Like, like we're like, we're not even in your, are we fucking talking about? we're not in your yard. You know what mean? Like we're not in your yard. We're not stepping on your shit. We're not fucking with your car. Like, like we're literally playing football in the fucking street. You have no say in this domain. You have no authority here. And then she's still like this and that causing problems and like complaining to our parents and stuff. My dad's like,
Ice Bear (1:35:19)
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Mm. Mm-hmm.
Grizz (1:35:49)
go fuck yourself. Go fuck yourself. My mom's like, stop causing problems. And the parents moms are like, you know what mean? And like, it's all this. I remember one time, like, the one time our football went, we fucking didn't catch it if I can bounce into her yard. And like, it went in and hit her like, it hit something of hers like kind of hit close to the line closer to her door. She didn't she took she came out and took it.
Ice Bear (1:35:51)
Yeah.
Of course. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, of course you did. Yeah.
Grizz (1:36:17)
And we're like this fucking, ⁓ so then
like she took our football and it was like a fucking, it was an NFL football. was like a nice foot. Yeah. It was a night. And so like, was, we were so pissed. Right. And this is where it gets bad. And this is actually really gross. And this is top tier fucking free team boys. We started all of us. There's this fucking six of us. We were like all like, what the fuck coming to you? Cause she's not giving us back to us.
Ice Bear (1:36:23)
Like a legit football. Yeah.
All right. Uh-oh.
Grizz (1:36:46)
And we can't necessarily tell our parents either because they're going to be like, you know what I mean?
We started, we got big gulp cups and fucking we poured out milk jugs for like a week and we started filling them all with pee.
We filled like four or five milk jugs full of fucking piss. And we had to hide them for our parents too because like obviously like I can milk jug a piss in the in the backyard. like so we had like we had like our garage and the backyard entrance and there's like a long side to the house and then like the actual backyard. So like
Ice Bear (1:37:13)
my god.
Where were you hiding it?
Grizz (1:37:34)
So like we had the thing where we put our bikes and then like some like broken wood stuff there. So we would hide them back there, right? In my house. So we filled them with fucking, we filled these folks, we had the gallon jugs of pee and we had like six of them by the end of it. In the middle of the night, we all snuck out and we all collected all the jugs of pee and she had all these plants and like fucking small strings in front of her house.
Ice Bear (1:37:43)
That's so good.
Grizz (1:38:01)
And we just fucking poured all the fucking aged urine all over all this stuff. And we didn't kill all of them. We killed at least half of them.
Ice Bear (1:38:10)
man,
that's... I mean...
⁓
The the the adult me would be furious, but also the adult me would never yell at little boys for playing football in the street. So
you know, not not did she have it coming? No. But, but, but, but, but was there a better way to handle that on her end that could have prevented the situation? Yes. And so is is my mindset is always like, in that situation, who is the onus on? Is it 12 year olds? Or is it the adult?
Grizz (1:38:41)
She took our football bro. She took our football.
Ice Bear (1:39:04)
to like, hey, like maybe playing in the streets dangerous, know, here's a park you can go to, blah, blah, blah. You know, maybe one of you can ask your parents to go to the park, something like that. Like there's a bunch of different ways you could handle it that doesn't make you hate her. So I kind of support the best.
Grizz (1:39:22)
Cause even if we can grant it's a long street, even if it was like, she, even if she came at us and was nice to us and said like, Hey, can y'all just play a little further up? Like I have this and it makes me a little worried. And you know, I think a lot of us would be like, Oh, okay.
Ice Bear (1:39:35)
Dude, that's...
Yeah,
dude, that's the thing. Like, I feel like a lot of adults don't realize if you talk to a child in the same way that you talk to a person like reasonably and like with like a modicum of respect. Like, hey, like, I'm just like, I don't know, like, I'm tired. Like, it's kind of noisy. Would you guys mind playing up the street? Like, I think a lot of kids might be like, Yeah, we can go up the street. It's fun.
Grizz (1:40:00)
Sure. Yeah.
It's like, Hey, I understand that, know, just, Hey, I've got to, know, whatever, have to sleep, whatever, like, or anything, just like, Hey, I have this, whatever makes a little comfortable kid, you know, mind going up a couple houses. Dope for sure. But just the fact she yelling at us or like, she immediately made an enemy.
Ice Bear (1:40:09)
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, because that's it. That is the age where you're just like, no authority, unwarranted authority. fuck you.
Grizz (1:40:30)
Especially if there's
fucking eight of us, bro.
Ice Bear (1:40:34)
Yeah, so here's my best equivalent to that. ⁓ This was my silver medal. ⁓ We had a similar older lady that would yell at us frequently ⁓ for being too noisy. And during Christmastime, she had a lot of inflatable light-up thingies. And so one of our things like
constantly like the amount of times we did this is unnecessary. We would go to the side of the house, unplug every last one of them, and then run to the front door and ding dong the doorbell ditch it. So it's like nothing was damaged, but like it was objectively annoying. Like it was really like is mean of us. And then we would just like run just far enough that we're like, all right, from here, we have enough of a lead that we can out pacer.
But we wanted to see the reaction so we like we'd watch and she'd be like
She was furious that things were deflated. it was like, you know, we would do the doorbell like right after we unplugged them. So it wasn't like they were fully deflated. They were just kind of like the light was off and they're like, like flaccid peen like polar bear and reindeer. So she'd get out and she'd see all these fucking things just like half assed.
Grizz (1:41:49)
Yeah.
Ice Bear (1:42:01)
Yeah. And then ⁓ our worst one, because this is where it gets like objectively in hindsight, I regret it immensely. And it was dangerous and we should not have done it. We had a neighborhood and the road setup was very, because actually in hindsight, it's fun to drive. Like it's a lot of curvy roads. There's like a lot of big hills. Like it's very like, you have to be an attentive driver in this neighborhood. So. ⁓
Grizz (1:42:02)
That's so funny.
Mmm.
Ice Bear (1:42:31)
Our bus stop was kind of like in the middle of our whole friend group. So all of us had to walk like two streets to get to this bus stop. Across the street from this bus stop, there's a campgrounds and it was like densely wooded. And ⁓ if you were ⁓ a member that camped here, you got free firewood. So there's regularly like chopped rounds of wood. This was at the top of a hill that was like at a blind spot. And we would create a like,
a fucking wall of logs that in hindsight like could have severely damaged a car like definitely popped a tire and we would position it like 20 feet up so that it was like just enough time that people could slam on their brakes to like avoid damaging the car but like now looking back like in modern times if it would have been terrible because like people texting like they would not have had enough time to react for sure but at the time like cell phones weren't really a thing
Grizz (1:43:24)
Yeah.
Ice Bear (1:43:29)
And so like people had just enough time to like slam on the brakes. And the minute they slammed on the brakes to avoid this, we called it logging. To avoid these logs, we would just fucking light them up with snowballs like from all angles, both sides. And like we were chucking them. And most of the time, people were just like, furious and they would drive off.
Grizz (1:43:53)
Yeah.
Ice Bear (1:43:55)
But every now and again, someone would get out of their car and chase us. And it was like the most revved up a sixth grade boy could be. And you're just like sprinting. And then you'd like dive into the woods and hope an adult isn't going to chase you. And we did this like every time it snowed years. And finally, the reason it ended was because some guy like didn't let up.
Grizz (1:44:01)
Exhilarate, yeah. Yeah.
Ice Bear (1:44:25)
like he and it was like an adult, obviously, like, clearly like, and a more athletic adult. And he fucking caught my friend. He's just like, rap music. He's like, I know there's fucking more of you heard him from and we're just like, me and my other friends are like in the bushes like watching my buddy get like, absolutely roasted. And in hindsight, Andrew, you did not rat us out. Thank you, We were just there. Cackling really.
scared like, my god. But like, yeah, he took my friend out to the road. Afterwards, he called us on he's like, Yeah, my mom's gonna call your parents. But dude, yeah, that that was the bad one. Like that that objective that was dangerous. And we should not have done it. Kids don't be stupid. Don't hurt other people. But it was at the time that shit was fun. Goddamn was that fun. It was exhilarating.
Grizz (1:45:20)
That that sounds fun as shit.
Yeah. Cause I don't need much car things. Only one car that was the one I already said, but we did do a lot of ding dong ditch. We called us on, we, we call it something else. So we called us something else that was way, it's way less politically correct than the other game from the redacted game. I'll tell you after, um,
Ice Bear (1:45:31)
It's a good game. ⁓
Yeah, please, because
I don't know what it
Grizz (1:45:47)
Yeah, you're gonna hear it and you're be like, like, yeah, it's bad. It's bad. But yeah, I and again, we do this in the fucking like, section eight housing, like, is where we live. So parents, adults aren't fucking quality adults. You know what mean?
Ice Bear (1:45:51)
Amazing.
Dude. Hold
on. We need to do, I don't think we've ever, at any point, I don't think we've ever done a little tiny, you know what? Any listeners that also grew up in section eight, we're with you. What an experience in hindsight.
man, I'm trying to think of like Canada doesn't have an equivalent like I'd have a really hard time explaining that to people here. Like, so how do you explain that? How do explain it? So basically like the government subsidizes housing that's reasonably spacious, but like it tends to create.
a neighborhood stricken with poverty and therefore you have a lot of like chronic drug issues and like parents that are either working two jobs or like you have a bunch of kids running around that are not really like properly supervised right.
Grizz (1:46:56)
Yeah.
the ⁓
Yeah. So, so the issue is cause like all government housing and like it goes back and forth. Um, again, like, you know, people just do things, whatever, fight and whatever. But like also at the same time, it said, like my aunt had this three bedroom duplex here and it cost her like $500 or $600 a month. It was fucking nothing. Right.
The issue with that is that again, lot of people that aren't necessarily the greatest due to personal reasons or otherwise are all there. So like we would go there and say, yeah, so we'd be damn, I fucking found it online here. I'm actually gonna see if I can make this bigger. Let's see can cut off the name of them.
Actually, I can see if this works. Yeah, so like it was one of these things where like.
Ice Bear (1:48:25)
Do you have enough ⁓ energy to spitball a topic for like 30 seconds? I go grab a little, a little how do you do for the end of this?
Grizz (1:48:35)
down with that. We can do it. Yeah, you go.
Ice Bear (1:48:36)
All right, give me 30 seconds.
Grizz (1:48:46)
Cover this
All right, so anyway, so going on to try to show what these are. God damn it, this is perfect actually. So going on to do what these are is like.
Yeah, damn, this is actually perfect. So like.
Ice Bear (1:49:18)
that's actually really nice. ⁓ dude, well, you're pulling this up, by the way. Dinger, Dinger, Dinger. This is man for a triple. This is really easy to drink. I enjoyed the hell out of that. ⁓ I'm going all the way to a for Dinger, Dinger, Dinger. That was that was yeah, that was really good. It was nice. And honestly, if if I had a hot honey pizza, or a jalapeno popper dog with this,
Grizz (1:49:20)
Damn.
Interesting. yeah.
Really?
Ice Bear (1:49:49)
bro it might be it might be teetering on S tier yeah I think if you paired that with something spicy because it was it was very very good on its own but if you give a little spice or something for contrast yeah I think I think that would be that would be even better
Grizz (1:49:54)
Really?
Interesting. That's actually really awesome. Yeah, I think
Ice Bear (1:50:13)
It's
funny because we've had so many weeks in a row now where we've had kind of like for us, lighter ones. Like we've had a bunch of like fives to sevens like in that kind of like lower range. That yeah, having a seven, five and 11 back to back plus the pre-gaming. I'm like, it's a good time. ⁓
Grizz (1:50:21)
Yeah.
Yeah, that's really good to actually here's here's perfect. So I going into this like I would say juice as much like I love the thing I'm giving juice to fucking I'm giving it a B plus it's a great beer I fucking really really liked it. It's not amazing in there is but it's fucking good. And it's it is very good.
Ice Bear (1:50:53)
Mm.
Grizz (1:50:59)
So here is, I'm gonna say let's just start the whole screen. So here can we.
Let's do this one. All right. Sure. Can we can see, right? All right. So here is we talk about section eight housing. That's my background. So we talk about section eight housing. Section eight housing is government subsidized housing from thing, right? So like you get a significantly cheaper than it is. It is basically another form of like, you know, just government support, like food stamps, things like that. Right. Yeah. Section housing is welfare.
Ice Bear (1:51:12)
Yes.
That's just welfare.
Grizz (1:51:36)
over housing. So I do some other things. So here's is the neighborhood of old grizz lore in section eight housing when I was a young a young tyke. So here is here's where they are here right. This right here perfectly right here is this is what I saw while we would be throwing the balls up there and feel good they get fucking so pissed off. Right. But it was perfect for it was so I could finish it.
Ice Bear (1:51:50)
Yep.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Of course, look at that cutout. Like what do they expect you to do?
Grizz (1:52:04)
Yeah.
And so here's and here's the backyard of all the things, right? So each one again, like, you know, the back doors for the thing, these clothes lines, we would fucking swing off of these so much all the time. These old teas.
Ice Bear (1:52:12)
Dude, here's...
Dude, here's the thing, because this is almost identical to what I was in, but with a Texas landscape. And looking back, I don't know if it's... It is. I'm probably romanticizing a bit, but it wasn't that bad. Like they're clean. Yeah, you had some shitty people, but like...
Grizz (1:52:39)
It really, really wasn't.
Clint Clint. So
a clean it was it was very shitty. There was a lot of like drugs or I was had a lot of drug shit. A lot of gang shit was not good at all. But it was fucking fun. Like
Ice Bear (1:52:52)
Same, same, same.
Like, like the actual,
the actual homes though, like these are well built things. Like they're not bad.
Grizz (1:53:05)
Oh yeah, 1,000%. These are, it was actually really, really fun. this, not this middle one, this one. Can you see where my mouse is? On here? Right here? So this right here is the parking lot where it was. We were in this one right here. So you can't see it in this one where these trees are.
Ice Bear (1:53:20)
Yeah. Yeah.
shit.
Grizz (1:53:33)
in there's of giant ass city ditch.
that we would run through, where we were running away from people. But again, like here, was, there was so much shit, like it was so much good stuff. ⁓
Ice Bear (1:53:40)
that's pretty great.
you
Grizz (1:53:52)
too much fun. So there we in there and then they wrote we would ding dong ditch and granted so you had like
I'll say to be very nice, hoodlum adjacent people.
that would view it as a personal attack to have kids fucking make them look like fools for answering the door when we run away. So we had grown ass adults chasing us. They're like, in no uncertain terms, gonna beat our ass for doing it.
Ice Bear (1:54:10)
Yeah, that's a very diplomatic way to put it.
Yeah, yeah.
Grizz (1:54:29)
So we
would run through ditches and fucking all this stuff like crazy.
Ice Bear (1:54:37)
Absolutely amazing.
trying to I'm trying to find a little thing for the people for the peeps
Grizz (1:54:56)
Yeah. And so like we
would do that. And I remember like so many times of like, we, we, and here's the thing, we we were fucking retarget. We are our day off. It's gonna get canceled again. Like we were, ⁓ we, I feel like we're taking it back. feel like it's back enough to where like, maybe over there over here, even over here in the PNN dubs, like I'm hearing you so often. like, the bro we're back.
Ice Bear (1:55:04)
You were... You're trying so hard to get it. Trying so hard.
No, it's not back enough. Stop it. Stop it. Stop being
Grizz (1:55:25)
We're so bad. We are back. I, so I'll say, I'll say like, we're, were restarted enough to where we would to think what we would do is we would ding dog to somebody and then we'd run away and then we'd do like somebody else and we'd go back to the old, the one we just did like 30 minutes later and then do it again.
Ice Bear (1:55:27)
We're back. You're fucking maniac. ⁓
Grizz (1:55:54)
And I remember one time the worst, the most feared time is that cause this guy was fucking like, he was a fucking straight up fucking G he was a gangster. He was a fucking not a good guy. All right. Definitely prison time kind of stuff. We ding dong ditched him and family thing and the next thing we went back and did it again. And I remember we were hiding behind the tree and one of our friends wants to go do it.
And the way like who would just knock hard and then run. But when we were like, really what we would do, and this is like, again, when I have like the super not PC worse than the redacted term, what it would call what it would be is you would go and you'd put your back to the door. Right.
Ice Bear (1:56:33)
You
Grizz (1:56:41)
you could put your back to the stand and put your back to the door and you would get one leg and you would fricking sling it back and you would kick it backwards hard as hell and then run. Right?
Ice Bear (1:56:42)
Okay.
my god,
Donkey kicked the door.
Grizz (1:56:56)
Yeah, we are basically and then we would ride. So we did doing that. Right. And so so we would do that. And I friend he had that's what he goes to like bang, bang, bang, bang. And as soon as he did, each door had like each door had a glass like whatever door and then the actual door. So we opened the glass door and we started
Ice Bear (1:56:59)
That's crazy. That's wild work,
Grizz (1:57:26)
banged on it, kicked the thing, right? And as soon as he hit it the fricking third time, the door flung open. And it was that guy who was obviously a free-no prison time guy.
Ice Bear (1:57:36)
my god.
Grizz (1:57:39)
And like all of us were like in shock and he looked back and screamed cause I got was right there and we all took off running and my friend took off running and he caught my friend. Obviously he's right next to him. You know, he got like halfway down the house and then like pulled him. He slapped him around a bit and then got to our parents or whatever. And it was like,
Ice Bear (1:57:53)
on
Grizz (1:58:05)
It was this whole freaking thing. And it was like, after that, had stopped because like, well, we just took a casualty, you know?
But it was, it was, it was bad.
Ice Bear (1:58:22)
Oh man, hold on. All right, I'm going to, I'm going to, let's see. Can I share this? All right, share it. me. Yeah. All right, here we go. Let's go.
Grizz (1:58:26)
And that was a bad one. Yeah, you should be able to, I imagine.
Yeah, that was one of the worst
and scariest things for us.
Ice Bear (1:58:38)
Can you
see this? Can you see this?
Grizz (1:58:41)
⁓ yeah, yeah.
Ice Bear (1:58:44)
Can you see this here? Lake Court. Look at that. Look at that majestic. That's where we were. That's where these kids would come down and hoop. We'd hop off the bus. We'd come here. We'd hoop at that lake. So we called it the lake because you go down from the court and you can then immediately jaunt into that thing. So that was that was life, man, for years. We'd hoop there and then yeet down those steps.
Maybe you'd go off that dock and you'd just launch into that thing. That was fucking life, For the longest time. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good times. Good times.
Grizz (1:59:19)
That's awesome, that's fucking amazing.
Damn,
that's amazing.
Ice Bear (1:59:31)
⁓ So, so what have we learned here? We were both, we were both bad kids. I think that's what we've learned. That's, that's, that's the moral of the story.
Grizz (1:59:32)
Yeah, we would, ⁓
Yeah, both hoodlums. All right, one of the funniest and
I'll give this as my bronze story. ⁓ wasn't even bad. think we were completely justified here, but it was very, very, very, very, very funny.
It was very funny. So we.
I used to live down the street from a big giant ditch. Right. And it was me and this friend and was the younger friend group that I talking about. There was a little new kid and he was
If the youngest group in this kid and I grew up with nine, this kid was like seven or eight. But here's the thing. He had just moved in. He had just moved in here. We're all playing in the ditch and like digging for scorpions and, you know, like shooting this shit and rough housing and stuff. This little kid comes on his bike.
Ice Bear (2:00:21)
The worst. ⁓
Grizz (2:00:39)
And then we're like, he's like, wants to play. And I'm like, bro, we don't know you. Like you got to freaking, you know what I mean? You can't just come in here and just expect a rough house and like, we don't know who you are. Right. Yeah. So this guy starts going there and then he goes and throws a fucking dirt clot at us.
Ice Bear (2:00:51)
Yeah, you gotta earn your place.
Grizz (2:01:02)
And so one throws a dirt call back and he throws it back and then we think those are back and then he throws a rock. And so once he throws a rock, we're like, fucking shit. And all of us and talking about all of us are fucking pelting his ass. So fucking dark ones. He fucking and hanging out. He asked us for it. Right. And we started fucking so we start pelting this one again. To be fair, this fucking kid didn't fucking let out. He's just going back. So like.
Ice Bear (2:01:18)
Yeah, I'm sure.
Yeah.
Grizz (2:01:31)
We were definitely going to be friends after this, but his dad ruined it. His dad and so grants were so it's for street ditch, right? Dead end and then ditch, right? And then we're all playing in the ditch and he's at the dead end throwing shit. I'll talk to you back. I don't know. He's getting pelted because he's it's fucking one against seven, six, eight. You know what I mean? Like he's getting, he's getting fucking pelted, but he's not giving up. And so we're like, you know what I mean? Like
Ice Bear (2:01:35)
Yeah. ⁓ no.
Yeah, of course. Yeah.
Grizz (2:01:59)
It's fun, but it's also, you know, like, yeah, we see this fucking guy and he's like this middle aged Scrony Scrony ⁓ Scrony Jamie Kennedy looking guy.
And he's running in sandals, which is also hilarious to us as kids. You have this guy, the scrawny guy in a polo and sandals fucking, and he's running serious. If I go granted again, your kids getting pelted. understand. Totally understand. You just moved into this thing and your kids getting pelted by like whatever. Right. And I'm talking about this and we just clown on it after cause he's running super serious. Cause obviously serious situation, but he's super serious and he's running like this.
Ice Bear (2:02:17)
Yeah, yeah, not intimidating sandals.
Ha ha ha!
Grizz (2:02:47)
And so we're dying laughing and he's like, Hey, don't fucking know my son this way. What's wrong? And we're like, shut up. And so he's, he's jeering at us. So we're jeering back at him and we're telling him to shut up. Right. And we're calling him, you know, we're like calling him, uh, redacted the redacted. We're calling it like,
Ice Bear (2:02:55)
Yeah.
Grizz (2:03:14)
And so we're going back and forth. I like, shut up. was like, and it was like, tell my dad, he'll tell you the same thing. You know, we're just arguing back and forth, whatever. Right. He's like, where do you live? And then we're like, we live off it. Like, we're just like a lying and yelling back. We're arguing this whole full grown as adult, but I can guarantee that that little boy would have been in our group very quickly after the fact, you know what mean? But the dad just kind of ruined it. Oh Lord, like saved us. know. Cause we're all kind of, you know,
Ice Bear (2:03:38)
Yeah.
Grizz (2:03:44)
However, you see it, but he was most definitely going to be accepted. I just remember the dead running like six houses down. This is my kid determined to save his kid.
Ice Bear (2:03:53)
See ya.
Yeeting
in sandals. Amazing.
Grizz (2:04:01)
Thinking back, you have like eight, if I can, 10, 11, 12 year olds just like it like calling him a homosexual. ⁓
Ice Bear (2:04:07)
⁓ Wild, absolutely wild.
Absolutely wild. ⁓ Well, shit man. You know what the kids say? The kids say we had a hoot and a half today.
Grizz (2:04:27)
I think it was very, very good.
Ice Bear (2:04:28)
I think this is also the first time we've gone two hours in a minute.
Grizz (2:04:34)
It's been a, yeah, it's actually been a long, we usually, we started being pretty good, but like, you know what? It's the juice. It's the B plus the B juiced.
Ice Bear (2:04:41)
It was a combination of
the juiced and it was a combination of the fact that last week when we tried to record one, we got two minutes in and just between ailments and internet issues and a variety of things, just... So you know what? Call this a double. Call this a double episode.
Grizz (2:05:02)
Double.
trouble.
Ice Bear (2:05:08)
trouble. ⁓
Grizz (2:05:10)
The tiger just
sent me a thing of for a preparing for trouble and making it double. Did you know that both the English voice actors for team rocket, Jesse and James are dead.
Ice Bear (2:05:22)
What?
Grizz (2:05:23)
Yeah, she just sent me this like really heartfelt. don't know. Sorry, the artists. I don't know who you are. Thailand, look them up. But like this is artists that they did of like Jesse and James and Meowth kind of like walking into like this, the ether of like looking for Jesse and just like, what took you so long? Kind of thing. And they all hug and embrace again. Right. Well, turns out that the voice, the English voice actress for Jesse died in 2024. And then the voice actor for
Ice Bear (2:05:49)
shit.
Grizz (2:05:52)
James, so I've died in 2025 on her birthday.
Ice Bear (2:05:57)
That's wild!
Grizz (2:05:58)
Yeah. And so they're all gone. And I'm like, fuck man, like that actually like made me sad because like how big they were like in my childhood, you know what mean? Like the Team Rocket duo.
Ice Bear (2:06:07)
Dude,
so one of the things, it's funny you mention this because ⁓ one of my good buddies that I've mentioned on this a couple times, Kwame, ⁓ he sent me a thing of ⁓ Mark Eaton for those who aren't hoop heads. He was a player for the Utah Jazz for many, many years and he passed recently. And I was like, fuck. I was like, we're at that age now where like a lot of the people that we started to like come up with, like they're going to be dead soon.
Grizz (2:06:28)
Really?
Ice Bear (2:06:37)
It's a weird like, we're like just we're on that cusp of like, we're at end of our youth, we're on the cusp of middle age, but like, a lot of the people that were adults and like doing shit that we, you know, either idolized or thought was cool or whatever, they're going to be going out, it's going to be it's going to be a weird thing.
Grizz (2:06:39)
Yeah.
that I'm so worried about that. again, I got, got one of my few actual jerseys I have is for one of my all time favorite plays, Marion Barber. And when I found out when he died,
The like the sorrow I felt. I don't know this man. I never met this man in my life. But like I just. I realize isn't even the word is just like I loved this man was like one of the greatest has craft in my opinion and like I loved seeing him perform his fucking art. And so like, although I know the idea who the hell he was.
who in for which actually kind of waltz in my under my aunt's like her friend was like his like cousin ran or some shit. And I was like, because when he went to the Bengals or whatever, like he was at the Bengals, right? Yeah. Yeah. When he went to the Bengals, like my aunt talked about, oh, yeah, is this and that like, oh, this whatever his nephew. I was like, huh? I was like, had to. What this guy was like my fucking favorite player ever for fucking them.
Ice Bear (2:08:05)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Grizz (2:08:14)
years and you never thought to tell me like I wore his jersey around you and you never thought to say anything of it. And yeah, so I found that that was a different story. I was fucking I felt betrayed. But
Ice Bear (2:08:14)
Yeah. Yeah.
Grizz (2:08:30)
Yeah, but when I found out he died, because he died like close close to his apartment was close to where I worked, where he lived. And so was like, I don't know, the fact that he died close proximity. And he was young, because he died a couple years ago, he wasn't old, he was young. And so like, it just should hit hard, like really, really hard, even now, like, I asked him, I'll see his jersey, like, his jersey in my closet, and I'm almost like,
Ice Bear (2:08:48)
Yeah. Yeah.
Grizz (2:09:00)
Like it's crazy to think that he's dead.
Ice Bear (2:09:03)
Yeah, dude, that's one of the things with like, there's certain like pro athletes that you, I don't know, you gravitate towards because there's like this won't be for a long time. But like for me, it's like ⁓ P.K. Subban, who's a hockey player who played for the Habs for many years. He got traded like very surprisingly, like it was a huge thing for like hockey fans to Nashville. And his first game back.
like in Montreal, they did like a tribute to him. And, and it was like a nice tribute. And he deserved it because he fucking he would donate massive amounts of money to the Montreal Children's Hospital. And like he did, like he he gave back to the community. And so they did this tribute. And he was just like, they put his face on the jumbotron. And he was like, bawling. And I was like, like, so like, there's a few that like him, him and
Grizz (2:09:36)
wow.
Yeah.
Ice Bear (2:10:03)
Probably a couple others where I'm like, yeah, that's going to be rough when they go. fucking life,
Grizz (2:10:10)
Yeah, that's
what I can't imagine like I think like when Dirk dies Like I think I'm gonna be fucking like crushed absolutely crushed Because like I was never a huge fan of I was more into football than basketball But like I did like, you know went to fuck kind of basketball first and then like it is funny the way because I'm like a Mavericks fan and the Dirk and while I was in San Antonio was because I fucking 2k
Ice Bear (2:10:15)
⁓ God, yeah, that's going to be a one too.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, yep.
Grizz (2:10:39)
Right. And I'm
picking teams and Dirk was like the best because he was like Shaq, but with like can shoot. And so I would always pick Dirk. And finally I was like, the guys in Texas, the guys in Texas too. Like I should, I should like actually watch his games. And then like, became a fan and you know what I mean? Like I'm a teenager, become a fan. then again, like when I was finally moved to Dallas, was like, I'm going to fucking Mavericks games and see fucking Dirk. And then like the next year he retires. like, what the fuck, bro? You know, and it's, it's like, so I think when he goes like,
Ice Bear (2:10:41)
Yeah. Yep. Yep.
Yeah.
Yep. Yep.
Yeah.
Grizz (2:11:08)
It's gonna genie. think him and kairi. I think him and kairi like when they go i'm gonna fucking like
Ice Bear (2:11:12)
Yeah.
Yeah, Kai is going to be a bad one too. he seems like a very genuine human. Like as far as like celebrities and pro athletes go, he seems legit. But all right, hold on. Let me hold on. I think we should send it out with one more little tandem. I think we're both getting yelled at. So let's wrap it up. Let's wrap it up.
Grizz (2:11:18)
Yeah, I fucking love Kai. I love Kai. love Derek.
Yeah.
All right. Does do this.
Are we gonna have we gonna end this? What are we gonna say?
Ice Bear (2:11:56)
three, two, skibbity-dibbity-dee.
Grizz (2:12:07)
Kai, every time you make a good game, the world gets flatter and flatter. And I thank you for that.
Ice Bear (2:12:12)
Flatter and flatter.